New Pally Ability (Leap)

Falling Swords -
1min CD
5 - 30 yd range

Instant
Deals x Holy damage upon impact
Leaves behind consecration on the ground.

Skill node - Spending HP reduces CD by 1s per HP spent.
Prot pally - Taunts nearby mobs
Holy Pally - Wave of light heals nearby targets
Ret Pally - Increases movement speed by 70% for 3s

Its no secret that Devine Steed is ripped right from Diablo 3, but honestly I think it’s the wrong choice, I think Falling swords should have been the Mobility talent.

I think it fits so much better with the class fantasy.

On a personal note, when Legion came around and Turalyon did his “light leap” I wanted it so bad, it felt so fight for pallys to have something like this, I’ve mained pally for about 15 years, half way through dragonflight I swapped to Warrior because it felt so good to leap around, but I want to play my pally like that!

DH’s and Warriors are able to get to places no other classes can because of leap abelites. come on Blizzard, give us this!

I will trade Devine Steed for Falling sword xD

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I have been asking for a gap closer for all three specs. A charge didn’t feel right so I pushed for a leaphad a lot of paladins say no because it made us closer to warriors and they did not want it because it was just hymoginzed paladins. And this was alao during legion where every paladin npc had a leap.

I still like this idea but doubt it will happen and you will get the others saying no that we aren’t warriors. Even though we are warriors of the light.

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Idk if you’ve played aatrox from league of legends, but before his rework he had an ability where he ascended into the air, then dashed at the ground. The path was sort of like a right triangle. Warriors are more like an arch.

I think paladins would look so insanely cool to have aatroxs old leap style.

Like I would never ask for anything ever again

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Ret almost got a leap in patch 10.0.7. A datamined spell called “Wings of Liberty”. Which was almost exactly what OP described. Heroic Leap+Consecration. No speed boost though.

It didn’t make it into the game because Blizzard thought it was too similar to heroic leap.

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I mean, Paladins are just Warrior priest when you think about it, and both of those classes have a leap, Warrior “Heroic Leap” and Priest “Leap of Faith”. only fitting really that Paladins get a leap too.

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It was 4 spells that were given the name “Wings of liberty”.
Leap of faith and the DH PVP talent Death from above were also named wing of liberty.

It was only in datamined info.
There was never any testable ability so we were quite far from an actual ability.

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it was only datamined and never implemented, alot of things were datamined for alot of specs and were never implemented. the only reason blizzard directly addressed wings of liberty is because some twitter goblin and some guy in this forum gaslit everyone into thinking it was gonna be in the game.

cough https://www.wowhead.com/beta/spell=444010/death-charge cough

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I do agree but just watch you will get those that say we aren’t warriors so we shouldn’t get a leap. As I said I was pushing for this for a long time and not just for ret for all 3 specs

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not sure who was saying that but those people are stupid; warrior already have charge and DH have a leap too. It’s so stupid that every paladin npc can do a leap but we can’t as players; Tririon did it back in Wotlk. Leap should had been Pally’s gap closer and it should not had been a warrior ability but they always give warriors stuff that should had been pally’s like spear of bastion.

Blizz is already giving DK Divine steed so all the bullsht reasoning blizzard has are out the door; they just need to give it to paladin at this point.

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people linking death charger are also kinda sus/dumb, cause yall are pretending deathknights dont have horses in their lore like paladin does. the 4 horsemen comes to mind and the og deathknights in warcraft

Bruh…


I have been meme’ing about this a lot. But honestly, i’d say mounted combat is more fitting for DK’s than Paladins.

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I agree, but that just continues to put Paladins in this awkward spot of having no class fantasy/identity. :sweat_smile:

If Steed isn’t fitting for Paladins… what is? >.>

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it is the same ol crowd here the gate keepers they are the same ones that when I suggested Shamans get the melee range increase they came into the Shaman forums saying no you dont need it you don’t need what Rogues and paladins got with it.

They also throw around the you aren’t doing the content we are doing and so our opinions are more valid than yours.

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it is pretty clear they dont want to give paladins charge or a leap or anything close to that.
Id say keep it simple just give us emmancipate back, maybe add pursuit of justice as a passive to ret. we need base line mobility buffed I dont want them to overload steed.

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Who cares what “they” want, were paying them so well keep asking

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What I was pushing for was for all 3 specs not just ret. I still think all 3 specs need a leap or charge or something as a gap closer for both pve and pvp

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they really dont, if anything paladin needs freedom on charger cast in pvp. but pve you 100% dont need a leap or a charge and i can 100% tell you that a leap or a charge will lead to the most hilarious tank deaths like it does for warrior and vdh.

the only thing a leap or charge can do that a horse cant is “knockback protection” but given that the spec can do everything, it doesnt need more things in its kit. yall also gotta stop suggesting things that are straight up worse then the horse and unbound freedom cause yall dont like the horse model.

just literally ask for a glyph that changes it to speed ot light animation.

theres a whole list of datamined things for every class that dont make it to live. wings of liberty aint special at all

And yea I would love to see Hilarious tank deaths because of the leap it just that lil bit of extra that it would bring. And yes how many fights have knock backs and if the tank can’t get to the boss quick it does aoe dmg.

For prot it would help 100% think of it like this you drop a glowing sword and leap to it when you land you deal aoe holy damage. There an instant threat grab also could be used to avoid mechanics if it is a area ability and not target required ability.

This would be a good threat gen/fight initiation esp when blizz messes up tank threat again which you know they will. This would just be an extra ability to grab threat and also could be used to help us with movment speed in dungons like warriors.

I was a Paladin tank for a while and hated just running in and throwing my shield. This would provide a decent imo first option where you leap drop cons/throw shield which ever order you want to go with.

As stated this could also be used for movement like warriors/dh’s use their leaps for as well. So it is not just for tanks which is why I say let it go for all 3 specs considering that holy paladin is melee it will be helpful for movement. This is why it should be for all 3 specs and not just for pvp but for pve as well.

I like the horse. That is just me its unique in that no other class has it. Only thing I would change about the horse is to allow you to change its look which you suggested a glyph for.

As for unbound freedom I do not like using a cd that is supposed to be for removing movement impairing as a movement speed boost. It is like dh using their dashes to keep up a flat dps buff. When they should be used for Mechanics that they have to get to or avoid or to return to a boss/pack after a mechanic they have to dodge.

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virtually 0, thats a 1 in a million situation that almost never happens. prot paladin especially doesnt have that issue.

instant threat grab isnt something prot needs since it already has muliple tools for that. keep in mind that this leap cant be strong enough for instant threat cause then it encourages the usage of it rotationally and that isnt good design. also leaps dont usually skips mechanics either nor will blizzard allow yet another immunity be in prots kit

except they dont, theres a difference between people misplaying and thus getting 0 threat/holding threat vs bilzzard messing up threat. 90% of the time tank threat issues is from player misplay. tww beta is a good example of player misplays and the inability to hold aggro. where i ripped aggro from my co tank in testing and kept that aggro

paladin as a class just does way to much to justify another thing in their kit, knock back immunity and a instant engager? whats the filter? whats the weakness would paladin as a class have? prot paladin and hpal are always meta in keys cause it does alot, the only time where these specs arent the go to meta option is if another tank or healer is ridiculously overtuned or have something more broken in their kit that blows paladin out of the water.

so again, people gotta stop suggesting worse things than the horse and stop suggesting ridic broken things without more thought into it. if paladin gets a leap then it has to be tuned down to the point it does nothing damage wise, it cant put con for prot cause thats makes that issue worse cause more con uptime which is something we actively want to get away from, and for hpal is just another utility option in a utility kit thta does everything