New or “casual,” M+ players just a few tips to enjoy it more

[Grizzle-eredar]

@Oortaelia-turalyon

Yep times have changed for me. I would certainly like to raid again, and I know you can pug even up into heroics but I don’t have the “time,” and by time I don’t mean the correct amount of time but I can’t schedule the same time weekly. And even once I sit down sometimes I have to get up 10 minutes later, wife kids and/or dogs all require attention at times.

Heroic raiding is quite puggable. Knock out 2 bosses today, 1 boss tomorrow, 2 bosses day after, etc etc.

[Oortaelia-turalyon]

It is, personally though I don’t want to lock my of in for even for one boss time requirements.

Forming a group or applying to a group, I’m a tank and healer so let’s be generous and say 5 minutes. The entire group getting there, accepting summons, etc lets be super generous and say 10 minutes. Trash and a quick explanation of expectations 5 more minutes. If the boss has two wipes then a successful attempt another 15 minutes.

Just for one boss pugging that is 30 minutes at least, closer to 45 or an hour if I try to fit two bosses in. Isn’t doable yes without a doubt. Other than after the wife and kids are in bed do I want to try that, no not right now.

[Antiman-bloodhoof]

I’ll add a few more, coming from one that has often made KSM/KSH.

6. mistakes happen, higher keys will often take refining to time even for the best of us, and most players are no where near the best
7. don’t call others bad after the dungeon is complete, more so if you said nothing before and especially if, in spite of all that went wrong (wipes, overpulls, etc) the group comes in under time or just over time (like not even 5 seconds over). Doing so just paints you as an elitist prick that is looking to blame anyone but yourself for what went wrong when it is just as likely that it was a lot of small things that snowballed.