New MW Raid Questions

I’ve only been mist weaving for a minute and joined a guild progressing heroic last week.

I’ve been thru all the guides, warcraft logs, wow analyzer, etc… but wanted to reach out to you good folks with a few more specific questions maybe you could help out with - give some feedback/experience with.

  1. Overhealing. I know the ideal would be zero - but given many of our heals are dots does anyone know a rough heals-to-overheals ratio? 10%? 20%?

  2. Positioning. Since it was my first time in I tended to stack with the ranged group - but looking at top MW parses it seems like I should be in with the melee. My fear here is that, being relatively new to the spec, I might tunnel either on the dps (and miss a heal) or on the heals (while in melee range and miss a mechanic) - any thoughts would be appreciated. I’m sure my raid leader will have an opinion as well - just want to get a general sense of how most people are playing.

  3. Pre-pot. This is more of a general healer question - but does it make sense as a healer to pre-pot or should I be saving it to just before large anticipated damage? I’m fairly bad with remembering to use them (mostly from inexperience and lack habit) - just want to make sure the habits I do develop here are the right ones.

BONUS ROUND

Anyone know a good mouse over macro for a healing trinket? I use clique for my mouse over heals, but I don’t seem to be able to set up the trinket there - I feel like I waste it since I have to manually select a target and then click the trinket. (mirror of entwined fate)

Feel like that would be a good thing to shoot off easily during higher movement.


Thanks for all the answers - or lack of answers - anything is appreciated.

Dont worry about overheating. Just heal people who are at the lowest health. Most of our heals are smart heals anyways. Position yourself so that essence font hits as many people as possible. Pre pot when there is big damage incoming. Ezpz

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It’s super, super easy.

/use 13
or
/use 14

13 and 14 are your trinket slots (upper and lower). Name that macro and you can use it in Clique.

As for potions, you can use an Int potion as a pre-pot to increase your dps (healing is usually very low at the beginning of an encounter), but usually the best option during a fight is a mana pot like Potion of Replenishment that will allow you to pump out far more healing over the encounter than just a short Int buff.

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This very useful! Thanks!

Overhealing will happen. It only really matters if you’re running out of mana.

You can be in melee to throw out some kicks, but the smallish DPS you’ll add shouldn’t make or break a fight, and you’ll obviously have to move less and pay less attention to your positioning if you’re treating yourself as ranged. My advice is to practice healing and using the correct spells at the correct time before you worry about adding DPS.

Pre-pot is good for adding some early DPS, as has been stated. Some fights might push a little raid/tank damage early but the vast majority of content you’ll see won’t have any dire moments coming in before the potion expires.

Mirror can crit, and using it on a low-health ally and them getting a near-lay-on-hands heal is a fun moment.

Good luck with all your weaving of mists.

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Dont forget that being a mw you are one of 2 healers that are classified as melee, being so makes you immune to range targeted mechanics. Which is why most mistweavers stand in melee.

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Most mistweaver stand in melee so they can melee…

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Feel like I should have known this… so thanks!

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This doesn’t work if you’re trying to apply an on use heal effect from a trinket to a party member via mouseover. You can make a macro with the trinkets name as a mouseover heal, just like you’de macro any other healing spell as a mouseover.

For example, this is what I use for the Mirror of Entwined Fate trinket:

/use [@mouseover, nodead, help] Mirror of Entwined Fate

Trinkets also dont have a gcd so you can also macro it with another spell if you want to be using it as much as possible off cooldown. So you can do this:

/use [@mouseover, nodead, help] Mirror of entwined fate
/cast [@mouseover, nodead, help] vivify

This will use the trinket on your mouseover target whenever its off cd and you cast vivify. I dont really reccomend this for on use healing trinkets because it will most likely just overheal, but its a way to have a high uptime on it without having to keep track of its cd.

If you just write /use 13 or /use 14 in your macro, the trinket will activate but you’de just be applying the heal on yourelf, unless you have a friendly player set as your target. These types of macros are good for trinkets where you have an on use stat boost tho.

Thanks! I’ll give this a go. Macros are pretty new to me, so this is helpful.

[Also, just to correct myself. I’m not sure why I thought I had Mirror (I don’t) - it was the Voodoo Totem I was trying to bind. I just have to use its full name when writing the macro I’d guess]

Would that be the case when using Clique? Because Clique usually does the work of casting it on the target you’re hovering over.

I actually dont know how clique works with trinkets. Are you able to assign a trinket slot or a macro youve made in clique? From what I remember, you assign the spells you want to be used in clique yhrough the spellbook, right? I used clique once back i the day but im not sure how it works now. Ive just always made my own mouseover macros for healing.

Yea youd replace the mirror part of the macro with the name of whatever trinket youre using

You can also replace the name of the trinket for the slot, so instead of:

/use [@mouseover, nodead, help][] Mirror of entwined fate

you can do:

/use [@mouseover, nodead, help][] 13;

Then if you want to display the icon just add: #showtooltip 13 at the start.

Yea this works as well. I just like to put the trinket name peraonally because I switch gear out a lot and dont want to worry about what slot its in. Not that its that hard lol

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Funny, I like using 13 or 14 over the item’s name precisely for the same reason, I switch gear around a lot and I like my trinket macro to work without having to change my macros or keybinds every time, I know I always put active trinkets that require a targets (like Mirror) on 13 and active trinkets that don’t use target on 14, passive trinkets can go wherever.

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This worked perfectly! Thanks!

So apparently there is a menu in the binding panel on the bottom that lets you put in macros directly and bind them - has instructions and everything… don’t even need to use the action bar.

The above macro worked well there.

Thanks again folks!

No Problem :smiley:

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