I think its clear by now that people are getting tired of class stacking and race stacking in the MDI. I would support new rules that would embrace class and race variety for the benefit of the viewers and in the spirit of competition. If we all played a game of chess with only rooks in place of every pawn, knight, queen etc it would be a very boring game of chess.
I propose the following new rules:
-5 different races per team. One race per player. No more NELF or Dark Iron Dwarf stacking.
-5 different classes per team. There should be an exemption if the class is being used by different specs. For example druids. It should be allowed for a druid tank, healer and dps spec in the same team if the mdi team wants that. But no more of triple rogues, warriors, etc. There should be no triple dps of the same spec or class if its a pure dps class. Maybe this is still a little bit to strict and as an alternative I would limit it to just one spec per team.
In DOTA 2 you can only choose one hero class per team and this bans that hero for the other team.
In Overwatch the same hero is only allowed once per team. And now they are moving over to a 2 tank, 2 healer, 2 dps role locked comps for competative to embrace more balance and less memes.
In LOL there are class limits.
Every E Sport has these limitations except WOW in the MDI.
Biggest thing that it will promote is how to effectively use the tools of several classes over the tools of just one or two. Having restrictions would force these teams to become more creative usingore wow classes over having one class dominate everything. It would highlight what other classes are capable of and thus be a better showing of class abilities instead of seeing the same exact spells and abilities over and over again with no variety. I woild prefer seeing 100 spells/abilities over seeing 40.
I don’t think they are getting tired of it. A small, vocal minority sure, that come to the forums and complain about it, and offer suggestions etc.
The people who watched the MDI or just don’t care aren’t vocal so you wouldn’t even know they were out there without some common sense.
Thinking that the 10 people on the forums posting about it represent any major piece of the population is silly. Most people could care less and are fine with the state of it.
If theyre tired of it doesnt that mean they wont support it anymore? As in not donate, not view, not discuss it? Sounds like there are already options for people who are tired of it honestly.
Should we start banning certain comps from arena tournaments? Or let blizz decide how many priests a WF raid team is allowed to have? Where does it end?
I would not say its a few people on the forums. I hear of the issue frequently in my guild and wow communities. Many dont bother coming to the forums because they think that Blizzard does not care and that orher players just discount and discredit their opinion at every turn. Its certainly more widespread than you are leading on. If the MDI is to be considered an esport it should have some aspect of balance.
In DOTA 2 you can only choose one hero class per team and this bans that hero for the other team.
In Overwatch the same hero is only allowed once per team. And now they are moving over to a 2 tank, 2 healer, 2 dps role locked comps for competative to embrace more balance and less memes.
In LOL there are class limits.
Every E Sport has these limitations except WOW in the MDI.
In terms of the WF race its not a Blizzard sponsored event. Blizzard has never in all the existence of wow sponsored a world forst race event. So no rules should be implemented there. It should stay a community driven event as Method and other guilds have indicated and demanded.
Maybe there should be restrictions in PVP but I do not know enough about pvp to reccomend changes. Pvp is a blizzard sponsored event like the mdi’s and I would not blame blizzard for making rules to that event as they technicaly own that event.
For the purposes of my post my rule change request would only apply to PVE in the MDI’s for the sake of variety in competition.
The point with arenas and the world first race is that once they get rolling I dont know where the rule making is supposed to stop, and the results may not be as satisfying as you think they might be.
I dont see how making rules on races and classes/specs will make it more entertaining. Each team will probably still be a mirror copy of the rest, but it will just be a drag on the participants to find a way to work around it. Maybe participants will decide its not worth the nit picking. I dunno. I dont want to see Blizz handling competitions anymore than they do.
Short story: how is “variety” (mind you, the comps will still look the same across the board and certain classes and races still wont be on the list) supposed to make it better for viewers?
What you fail to realize is even if you could not stack classes you would still get identical teams.
I assure you they have done the math, and they have done the Sims, and they have done the runs.
You are seeing these teams because it is the most efficient way to complete the task. Change the rules and they will still find the most efficient way to compete the task.
There will ALWAYS be a best comp and they will all run it. So it will be the same regardless.
Biggest thing that it will promote is how to effectively use the tools of several classes over the tools of just one or two. Having restrictions would force these teams to become more creative usingore wow classes over having one class dominate everything. It would highlight what other classes are capable of and thus be a better showing of class abilities instead of seeing the same exact spells and abilities over and over again with no variety. I woild prefer seeing 100 spells/abilities over seeing 40.
I dunno. When football teams, golfers, basketball teams, etc do what they do its all pretty much the same thing. Same training, same plays, and so on. I watch to see who wins and the numbers (a pass that was so many yards that got the TD) and that works fine. For me personally, forcing comps wont make the MDI more entertaining. I guess we are just on opposite sides of the fence.
I could engage in this comparison of physical sports vs esports but it would not lead to anything completely conclusive. Even though its an easy argument to say that teams may train the same but utilize different strategies and plays that best fit their team composition (Think Dallas Mavericks vs Miami Heat/ Lebron v Dirk).
I think the better comparison is within the realm of e sports. Of which nearly every e sport has some type of restriction on class amd hero stacking.
Well, I am better with sports than I am esports, but I will still say that if OW let a team stack one hero or whatever and my team did so I still wouldnt be bored. Thats just me.
