So I finished my KSM today and I have to say it wasnt that bad. Yes the dungeons are quite a bit more difficult to time with the amount of gear we have. Yes it took 2 weeks and much more than 8 timed 15s. But there were loads of good players out there signing up for keys. And the flexibility allowed me to get it with only one timed 15 on tyrannical (theater of pain). And there were even nice gear upgrades out there along the way. Good experience overall.
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Sounds like a druid bragging on getting kms week 2…also feels like your a tank or healer or did it with mates/your guild
Try doing it as a non meta dps and waiting hrs, if not a day for a pug to pick you up. Or if you use your own key get really to try and find good people. Start of the seasons are always a mess (io helps)
For the 4 mobs vs pride I can see the ups and downs for both. Now you don’t need to be so “I need to pull this pack, this mob and the next 3 mobs to get X% and to get pride at Y location” Now it doesn’t matter if your under or over %. Just kill a few more mobs or skip a pack later. The powers can be… meh. Give it a bit for the meta to be shown
Pride did help for the harder pulls/bosses, bit that was prob the only good thing there
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Try doing as it a Demon Hunter, Mr “I play meta class” lol
I wait hours to get a group on my DH, switch to my mage and get a group in 1 minute. A class redesign would be great.
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Congratz ! Whats your plan now ? Helping other players in premade get KSM ? Retiring ?
I do admit I didn’t criticize the change when it was announced. Mostly because it didn’t really impact my core gameplay. I would be running keys during tyrannical for vault anyway.
I do tank but the main point I wanted to make was the flexibility in the system. Busting a timer on a 16 gives the same as an untimed 15. I timed a single 15 on tyrannical.
The dungeon tuning feels okay, its just you really have to have big dps to time anything above 15. Attempted a 16 top the week and missed timer by two minutes with no wipes and 7 deaths, a fairly smooth run.
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Congrats 
Enjoy your blueish? Greenish? Death tornado!
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Although I understand some of the criticism in this thread, I think the OP’s point was more to the fact that the new system isn’t really as bad as we first thought it would be. I’m not a “Meta” tank and I don’t have KSM week 2, but I like the new seasonal and am finding that M+ this season so far isn’t as bad as I thought it would be.
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KSM this season is a joke if we/I can get it with a nearly 30 ilvl gap from the top loot. In season 1 it was a bigger challenge being 215ilvl running +15s than it was being 224ilvl in season 2.
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It was way easier to get than last season lol.
EZ Clap Week 2. Fought tooth and nail to do 15s at 210 ilvl last season, whereas 15s are actually pretty laid-back and casual right now even at the ilvls we are at. I don’t even flask for 15s at this point. That’s a bit silly IMO.
Do you have to time or just complete every 15 for ksm?
Slightly overtimed 16s contribute about as much score as a 15. Largely overtimed 17s contribute as much score as a 15.
A mish-mash of timed and untimed keys of 15/16 variety will get you there.
DPS have it extremely rough right now, b/c any time I list a key there are at least 30+ applicants where at least half are 230ilvl+. My guild has 3 KSM (myself included), and we all PUG’d as tanks / healers.
I miss Prideful on Tyrannical weeks, b/c sync’ing that with Lust is a noticeable difference.
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This game wasn’t designed to be PUG’d in that way, I really don’t think it makes sense to consider that part of the “difficulty”.
I ran 20 keys this last week as a tank and 14-16 the week before that because people in my guild needed keys for Vault / IO / etc.
It’s a social game. Find some friends who are willing to do you a solid. I can’t really feel pity for DPS anyways, because DPS in keys rarely have any major responsibilities anyways besides “do the damage”
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Honestly this season does feel more relaxed and more fun overall. The removal of prideful made screws up not feel as costly cause you don’t lose out on power.
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It’s a humble-brag and nothing more.
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Gratz enjoy the reskin of the season mount 1 which was the reskin of the Shaman order hall mount 
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It’s been like that for ages sadly. Dosnt help when 98% of people are dps. Also that when you make a key you will get 10 dps wanting to join within 10 secs. The leader will also pick the highest ilev/io and the most meta class
There needs to be more tank and healer classes. I do see people asking for each class to get one/both roles. Some classes i can see working, like tank shamans (remember when they could equip plate) or hunters/locks (make the pet the tank)
Tank mages… yer, I don’t see that working, lol
Get friends?
I never said anything about PUGs being part of the difficulty, but illustrating that tanks & healers find groups quickly.