Swapping between servers is not an automated process.
If you have a tool that detects when you’ve hit the cap, logs you out, and swaps you to another server that you haven’t capped on, then yes. Is that tool even written yet? How much is it going to cost to buy and/or run that tool? How easy is it for Blizzard to tell that you’re regularly bumping up against the cap, swapping servers, and bumping up against the cap again? If you’re doing that, what are the odds that you’re a botter? How quickly are you getting banned now?
I believe automated programs exist yes, how do you think bots run in the first place? Botting programs can easily tell when you are stuck, dead, need repairs, or hit instance caps.
Probably as easily as it was to tell if someone was on 24/7 doing the same repeated behaviour constantly, which means this change was unnecessary.
Because they did a bot wave separately? Bot bans were what we wanted in the first place, and can happen without restricting non-bots.
It’s the “us vs them” mentality that came with the pserver crowd. It doesn’t matter how much longer we had our druids than they did. Because that druid moved on into TBC, we clearly don’t know a single thing about the class that we’ve had for 15 years.
Bud I’ve had my druid just as long as you both. You’re not correct just because of that, I’d even go as far as to say it’s about 99% irrelevant to the discussion.
It is the tank’s job to get threat/aggro.
It is the DPS’s job to stay below the threat threshold.
These things are not mutually exclusive in classic, nor does it mean the “tank sucks” when parse happy DPS don’t bother with threat meters and cause fights to go pear shaped.
It is amusing how some of the people complaining about this change and how it hurts hardcore 1337 players apparently don’t know how to use a threat meter.
I’m new to this whole question but I don’t quite get why so many people hate the idea.
Logistically, it seems incredible to me that anyone would want to do more than 30 instances a day. I mean, let’s assume the most valuable ones take half an hour to complete - that’s 15 hours of play in one day. Who actually plays 15 hours a day? I realise some of them take less time than that, but the longer ones, and the ones like DM that give good income, aren’t quick to run.
I’d be interested to hear from anyone who farms instances as to how many hours a day they do it because it seems crazy to want more than that.
This is by far the laziest, greediest and pathetic change that doesn’t even really address the issue at hand. Someone at blizzard needs to take a stand against Activision and do what’s best for the community at large here. Hire a small task force to deal with botters and RMT…put your damn customers first for once.
Daily reminder that this change doesn’t do much more than slightly inconvenience botters and only hurts legitimate players.
At the very least this garbage change should have been released with a UI tracker to track our total instances used, and the fact it doesn’t even have that shows how little thought they put into this change.
It doesn’t even do 3 right. The bots are still botting 24/7 (even in instances if they want) due to the “per realm” botting exemption. They just bot their way to 4 toons on 4 realms on the account, and continue as if the restriction as not there swapping between them.
And thus, since this instance cap does not address ANY of the problems outlined in the video, and the outcry against botting was renewed thanks to said video (and while I’m no fan of paying botters, the attention it brought to the issue is probably worth more than the 20g or whatever), the fact that Blizzard’s “solution” does not successfully address ANY of the issues you yourself outlined from the video, is the most troubling part of this whole process.
Why are they so adamant with an unpopular new rule does NOTHING to address the problems there was an outcry about in the first place (if they wanted to claim it was to combat botting, they would have made the 30 limit per account, not per realm)? A cynical observer will easily conclude that Blizzard wants botting to continue from such an act.
It’s a change (thanks to being completely ineffective) that they have not justified or adequately explained. It’s stuff like this that Blizzard’s communication is correctly perceived to be so bad, and which causes them even more problems in the long run. As someone who has quit retail over terrible changes which were handled with the same “let them yell themselves hoarse” mentality, I will inform you that being made to feel like dirt who was not worthy of so much as a response from the people I pay, was a large and festering part of my disdain for Blizzard and their current developers and played a big part of why I quit. By ignoring the problems Blizzard may think it’s doing the best thing to let the problem apparently die down, but from first hand experience they are doing more long term damage than if they communicated, explained their position thoroughly, and weathered any temporary resulting firestorm. The resentment from being treated this way snowballs and persists for years making the next issue even worse until the player just leaves.
Blizzard, if they communicated, could avoid bad PR or even get positive PR, if they lay out their problems to us, and allow us to help suggest solutions/modifications. It’s not like we want people breaking the game either, but if you put in a new rule, it needs to be both effective and have little to no collateral damage, something the 30 instance rule fails spectacularly on both counts. Having an anti-botting rule that does not really affect bots and penalized heavy players is why this thread is almost 4500 posts now - not because we are some imaginary boogey-men who support botting or exploiting.
Some good ideas from this very thread:
Close the per realm botting exemption and make it per account.
Expose an API for monitoring how many instances we have entered (addons will handle the rest for us). Literally like 6 lines of LUA code.
Extend the cap from 30/day to 120+/every 4 days for our weekend warriors and speed runners out there. If someone wants to break the 1-60 leveling record by dungeoning till their eyes bleed, who are we to stop them?
Blizzard, if these suggestions don’t address both your concerns and ours, TELL US WHAT YOUR CONCERNS ARE and we can work something out. We’re not all unreasonable here.
