New Instance Limit in WoW Classic

Well that depends, I think blizzard knew exactly who would be impacted by this change. You seem to think that certain people were inadvertently caught up in it.

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Um, allowing 5 runs per hour is infact spamming the dungeon

Not compared to what people what people were doing that mandated that rule in the first place. And not compared to the people bragging they’d easily be hitting 10+ dungeons per hour without that rule.

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Its still spamming dungeons

So is running 1 dungeon every 2 hours :slight_smile: of course doing that you won’t hit the 30 runs per day.

Clearly there is and was in vanilla a finite amount blizzard is cool with it.

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Can you tell me what dungeon can be completed in 12 mins consistantly?

It would seem that 6 an hour is spamming, since the cap is in place at 5 an hour.

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With a level/gear appriopriate group?

This does not cut bot profits at all.

It just means they make 4 times the accounts and roll between servers.

“But it costs them more!” No it doesn’t, it doesn’t cost them any money as they “pay” for these accounts with stolen credit cards and using stolen accounts. It also doesn’t cost them more time because they are botting, meaning they turn a program on to level 1 account, or 4 accounts and it takes the same time it took to level one account (give or take rng on respawn time, rares, deaths, exc)

Could one of you Blizzard White knights explain to me Blizzard’s logic then?

  • Running 31 instances a day on your toon was/is an exploit according to you.
  • Running 31 instances a day across 2 toon on a realm, same thing.
  • Running 31 instances a day on 2 toons across 2 realms, A-OKAY?

Why is the “per realm” botting exemption that blizzard added make 31 or more instances a day perfectly okay? If running too many instances is “exploitative” across all your toons, why is Blizzard explicitly allowing more than 30 (with an exemption that primarily benefits bots of all things)? Your so called ‘logic’ makes no sense.

As for asking Blizzard for clarification, you might have noticed this little thread with almost 4400 posts where people have been asking for that and all we get are regular players acting like they are clairvoyantly channeling Chris Metzen himself. If you are devs hiding behind player accounts, at least have the decency to identify yourselves and make your stance official. If you are reading this, Blizzard, then why are you allowing players to be your mouth pieces and twisting half a sentence to their meaning? It’s fairly obvious to us the exploitative behavior was the viral videos of flying ZG mages, but if it was, how is a 30 instance limit combating that? It’s not.

Blizzard, you’re behaving irresponsibly by letting people hypothesize over your meaning stirring up arguments like this. At least respond with what you mean. We want to talk to you about this. Stop ghosting us.

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It’s not. It’s probably a technical limitation that they have yet to address. Still, fixing part of the problem is better than no fix at all.

Because no one is twisting anything. You’re just in denial.

A video comes out of someone buying boosts off a mage in all greens in ZG that flies straight up into the sky, and flies all the way to the start to use pathing limitations to AOE every croc pack in the instance (using flying to exploit the pathing), while probably picking every herb node from 30,000 feet for bloodvine. The video goes viral and is shown by most major wow youtubers and twitch streamers who all complain of a botting problem leading to pressure on Blizzard to do something about botting. Blizzard enacts a ban wave and this instance cap in response.

Now, in this proper historical context, what makes more sense that the “exploitative” behavior refers to? Flying hacks, or people reset fishing for Jed?

There is zero evidence for your assumption. If you are certain (i.e. a dev with inside info hiding on a player character), then please post from your blue account and tell us so. If not, then feel free to continue looking foolish, but understand that no one is taking you seriously because your argument makes zero sense.

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So you think the cap should be 31 per day instead of 30?

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I think there is a much easier thing blizzard could do here.

Rather than have a stupid arbitrary 30 instance limit which affects legitimate players as well as bots. Instead just make it so that if you run 30 instances (but don’t mention you are doing this blizz) have it so that it causes a Flag on the player. Then have a GM do their job and go and spy on the player to determine by watching the gameplay and actions and determine if it’s a bot or not. If it is not a bot remove the flag and let them proceed on their way. If it is a bot ban them.

That would cut into Activisions profits and Bobby’s paycheck. Now now, we can’t have that.

You can still farm and you can still pvp.

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Blizzard does not need to do anything of the sort. Players can choose to either abide by the rules and game mechanics, or leave.

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IIRC, Zakiri did not play during vanilla.

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I do find it weird when people opposed to this change ask you to post on your classic account not your vanilla account.