New Fel Werebear'er some thoughts

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Hi Everyone!

I’m writing this to hopefully help and encourage other people, heck even inspire them if they’re bashing their heads against the wall or experiencing sub 5% wipes in phase 2.

After first seeing the Fel Werebear I said to myself I MUST have this, not knowing at the time what was involved.

I’ve never really played bear or even boomy, I’m 100% resto M+ player with a hunter as my old main and dps toon.

So I’m coming into this with having to learn how bear abilities work and all the little nitty gritty details of both how the spec plays and works along with understanding the encounter. I spent a good 30 or so attempts with full SL gear just perfecting phase 1, if I got further great, but i wanted to nail phase 1. I had a bit of DPS troubles until the nerf the other day and I also went and farmed a couple of trinkets and decided to use consumables.

At that point I was reaching phase 2, only lasting about 10 seconds… BUT! Progress was being made, although random at times as sometimes I’d fall back a little, not to worry. After another good 50+ attempts in phase 2 I was reaching the 15% area and was getting brick walled a little bit, I had to refine how I was playing and what in particular was causing things to go haywire (holding cds like roar, purple beam, kiting better) and once I did that I reached a few 5% wipes and even a 1% wipe…

Finally (about 30mins ago) I killed it and I can’t wipe the smile off my face.

My thoughts on the difficulty/tuning/gear/consumables/requirements/etc?

It depends on how you think Blizzard has ‘marketed’ this…

To me, it’s meant to be a tough solo challenge, which it certainly is.

Does having TW gear/weird trinkets/cheesing trivialize that by making it less difficult?
Yes, but anyone such as myself can spend a couple of hours and go grab a few bits, the two trinkets I used (whetstone and seed pod) helped me easily power through phase 1 with only 1 infernal.

Overall I think the encounter is tuned extremely tightly, I was using 3 scrolls, armor kit, unbridled wrath potions, health pots, runes and drums.

For the content it is, I believe that is warranted, but I can see also how people shouldn’t be expected to spend thousands of gold on inflated priced items, so I’d prefer a stat template that everyone then uses/shares.

Hang in there, keep at it and best of luck!

Feel free to reply with questions/etc I’m happy to answer when and if I can.

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Having to play Boomkin is one of the core problems with this “tanking challenge” the fact your dps isn’t on par with what is required to get through phase 1 as Guardian with as little Infernals as possible for Kruul in phase 2, just goes to show you have inept Guardian Tower has been tuned.

It’s a tanking challenge, not a bookmin challenge, the whole point is to do it as Guardian, In legion i did 2x as a guardian druid, i didn’t need to switch to moonkin, I had a couple nice leggos that were designed around the content + artifact that made up for it, also drums weren’t nerfed into oblivion as well.

At the end of the day, Blizzard developers should have did more testing and better tuned the encounter.

And of course their response was the standard LAZY developer nerf hotfix just give kruul 10% less health, that will shut them up.

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A Tank challenge shouldn’t require a DPS spec.

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Sucks you’ve been having troubles man, I never did the Legion ones so that’s why I was really after this, can’t talk about those since I never did them.

But I do agree somewhat that you shouldn’t have to be in boomy to do a lot of dps, same time It’s also apart of the overall class and switching forms, BUT i mostly agree you should be in tank for the majority.

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I been pushing into phase 2, I will get it to fall this week, my concern isn’t for myself, I know what I need to do.

The problem is as I stated before, the challenge shouldn’t require you to use moonkin form to complete the challenge on top of a host of other things, like farming old raids for sockets and trinkets is just overall bad.

You could easily push Variss in p1 in Legion with maybe 1-2 infernals, at current with dps as the guardian druid you have like 3-4 coming up.

It’s tuned poorly.

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The video guide in the Druid discord shows the player not using Moonkin form at all.

I disagree with that strategy personally, but it’s absolutely possible to do.

I also think that form switching is absolutely a fine mechanic for the tank challenge to have. Maximizing your damage when you don’t need survivability is a normal thing to do if you’re a tank, and if you’re not actively tanking, switching to Moonkin (or Cat) form is good play.

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I see your point as I was angry about it at first but now I also kind of disagree. I used to Lazer chicken weave when I did keys for extra dps. This is meant to be a challenge and using your abilities as a druid, imo.

Op, I think an NPC with the same gear for every class/spec would be better then having to farm old gear. Also, I too will answer any questions to the best of my ability if ppl have any.

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I did the felwere bear a few days ago and figured I would try the affliction warlock challenge. Idk why but I feel that one is harder than the were bear. I may be messing up something though with the aff one. The mage towers are all extremely tight on doing, and very hard. But, I get to dust off some old characters to do them with, so I’m happy for that and I enjoy hard solo based stuff.

That or stuff not meant to be solo and I solo it anyway.

Edit: also gratz on the form! =)

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You’re not using a DPS spec though. You’re using a talent. I think it’s warranted to say you’re being challenged to your talents and your spells/abilities.

And if it wasn’t, y’all would just complain the tanking is too difficult.

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You don’t need moonkin to beat it, it helps but honestly unless you’re consistently making it to p2 with kruul at 5% or less… moonkin wouldn’t change anything… 99% of the people complaining are dying to avoidable mechanics or not lining up their cds properly

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So at 6:05 when he starts wrath/moonfire to burn like 8% of the bosses health, that wasn’t moonkin at all? k

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Nope. Moonkins are giant chickens and require Balance Affinity to shift into.

If you look in the talent recommendations about 30 seconds into the fight, he chooses Restoration affinity which means he doesn’t have access to Moonkin form.

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Perhaps look again.

Zand Trolls have different moonkin apperance

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You have to save CDs for Karam / hands and let raest enrage in the final phase, then leverage drain life healing with inevitable demise whilst running in circles around the adds farming stacks.

Also use your pet to soak the runes for you.

If you do it any other way than this it’s damn near impossible, but this way is pretty fool proof. It just takes ages.

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Except you can clearly see Wild Growth and Swiftmend on his bars, spells you don’t have access to outside of Resto Affinity.

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That’s what I’m doing but the floor adds keep spawning I think I need to work out how I move / handle the adds so they are more grouped up and not all over the place. I 100% think that’s my issue along with trying to get the pet in the right spot etc.

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There are only 3 rune spawns and they’re all roughly in the same place (Slightly forward from where you enter). The only tip I have for kiting is try to let things get as close as you can before running from them, this way they ‘cut you off’ less when you change direction. If you’re constantly trying to run away at an angle theyre always going to take a shorter path to reach you than the one you’re running.

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oooh yeah good point

I’ll do that and I’ll try to have the adds on the other side around the time that happens and use my lock teleport to teleport over if need be. I have astigmatism so trying to line up the ground effects is um… well it’s a process LOL

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Hey if it makes you feel any better, I don’t have astigmatism and trying to line up my pet in that circle can be frustrating. Had more than a few pulls where I got smacked in the face cause my pet wasnt actually in the circle.

Purple on purple on purple can make it a struggle to make out visual effects.

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oh that purple on purple with it also being bright it makes lines in my vision and I can’t see! that little green thing is like “uuuuh I think I got it there.”

I think though if I better round up the adds like as what was mentioned earlier that will help out massively cause all the npcs are grouped up. Btw I’ve heard that aff is the hardest one but I’ve heard demo and destro are the hardest ones. I tried the other 2 had no idea what was going on but this one I got an idea of what to do cause the fight progresses and progressively gets harder.