New expansion: a must have

These are the lists of things that I think the new expansion should have that would make this game 100% better and get more subs back

  1. Go look at WOTLK. Follow what it did right and what it did wrong. WOTLK was the most subbed expansion to date. Numbers dont like people loved it.

  2. keep the looking public group for raids only and make everything below that random grouping like heroic LFG to be fair.

  3. speaking of M+ keep the ksm at 15+ but dont let 15+ have the highest ILVL drop. Make 20+ the highest ilvl drop for that tier or so.

  4. M+ again: Dont give any reward for failing a key.

  5. Dont give everyone a legendary.

We need a Titanforged expansion but instead of Titanforged we could flavor it up with Dragonforged loot or maybe even race specific Titanforged Loot like Night Elf forged loot, Worgenforged Loot, Humanforged loot for humans, Sindorei forged loot for all the sindorei, void-forged loot for all the void elves, Pandarenforged loot for the Pandaren from Pandiarrhea and so on for all the races to enjoy the never ending fun (at noboday’s expense) of being overpowdered with a high Ilvl.

#TITANFORGED#LOOT#DID#NOTHING#WRONG

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40 and 50 slot bags!!!

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I loved Wrath, but the biggest reason it was so successful was inertia. WoW was a cultural juggernaut at the time.

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Worgenforgen loot I like it

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Here is my wishlist.

< Pathfinding >

bring back Pathfinding, BUT, make it available from day 1, and make reputation farmable like in Wrath/Cata via dungeons+tabard. So, real hardcore players can get flying by the end of 2nd week. People who work the hardest will have it the fastest.*

< M+ changes >

  1. Make Battle Res/ Lust baseline for every run OR increase M+ to 6 players.
    (controversial one, I know)

< Future xpac currencies >

  1. Make it a “total pool”. Like, if I farmed 100 GO’s on paladin, my druid has access to them as well. Basically, account-wide progression expanded.
  2. No more “deposit” currencies.

< World Quests >

  1. Bring back Legion/BFA WQ’s style.
  2. Bring back Zone Emissaries.

< Solo activities>

A’la Toghast, but infinite floor progression. And eventually, try to somewhat make rewards on par to like how max Valor upgrade is now vs vault.

< Misc >

  1. Make command table fun again.
  2. Flight whistle
  3. Grind’able power progression system like Azerite Power… Again, I think dedicated players should be ahead of those who play 2 hours a week.
  4. Add more cool things to professions, like Mog/Mounts and craftable gear like we had in Wrath.
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Only because it was the 3rd expansion and coasting off the popularity wave of vanilla and BC. WoW was the rising star back then. It’s not that just Wrath itself was the greatest thing ever and that’s why it had so many subs. A big part of it was also the social context of the time they released it in.

If it wasn’t Wrath, and they did some other expansion instead, it still would likely have been just as active. So it’s not really right to point at Wrath as objectively the highest of expansions.

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If they took the best parts of MoP and Wrath, ditch borrowed power and hire better writers, we could very easily have the best MMO on the market in our hands again.

Ten bucks they keep going with the Post-Legion design philosophy that has repeatedly failed every single time.

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I don’t agree. Wrath and MoP were very much “raid (or pvp) or die” expansions, and the backlash to another such expansion would be immense.

The difference between now, and then, is that back then, all the people who didn’t raid or pvp were content running dungeons forever for bad blue-quality gear, and doing quests to eventually hope to get rewards that were a pale shadow of what raiders and pvpers were getting.

So why was it okay back then for people to get crap rewards from the game, but it isn’t now?

Wowhead, that’s why.

Or, more specifially, wowhead’s daily in-your-face “Here’s what everybody else is doing who isn’t you” headlines. Wowhead was around back in the old days but it was still mostly just a database.

It’s the current ‘news’ that’s driving peoples’ angst, because they’re seeing what amazing rewards raiders/pvpers are getting – but they’re not.

Which then leads to unhappiness and “but I should get everything everyone else has” sentiment.

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Cant turn back the hands of time when WoW was a phenomenon and wildly popular. Plus it had outrageous marketing for it’s time.

What? So in other words make no progress, and allow all the same failures?

It’s a video game for fun, not boot camp.

Why not? I would think it enhances your game if everyone has the same power as you.

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Hello, Satan.

People already complain about key leavers, this would just make it worse and waste everyone’s time.

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I would like a non-cosmic story focused on Azeroth or Outland.

Could our capital for the expansion be an existing one, but updated?

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I sincerely and unironically hope I am not playing next expansion.

I need a healthier hobby.

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Go look of Mists of Pandaria. Likewise do what it did right (professions, flight, item to assist alts for rep grinds, apparently pvp, an item to increase experience gains, raids etc) and fix what was different (more questing choices, include multiple node tapping, etc). Wrath was good for its story.

Not sure I understand your 2nd point. Please clarify for the slow of brain.

I agree that M+ needs certain changes but not sure if your suggestions would make it any better. The no goodies on not timing would undoubtedly make it worse.

Why? Sounds elitist, much?

Then so were vanilla (not an expansion, but you get it), TBC, Cata, WoD, and SL.

Legion and BFA are the only expansions that truly weren’t raid or die. Because we had titanforging and more gear drops.

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There’s a reason WOTLK private servers have dozens of thousands of players. Literally ppl still stream WOTLK private servers all the time. Go on mop or cata servers and they have like bc 300 players maybe

Correct on the first 3, but SL has alternatives like M+ and Korthia gear.

There’s a lot of middle ground between “raid/pvp or die” and “turtle maze can drop bis gear”.

wotlk is extremely dated at this point

if released today it’d be the worst expansion we’ve ever had

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Posting in a Anon thread. Shocker it hasn’t been flagged yet lol.

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There isn’t though. Otherwise it would already be in the game. Loot is just boring.

Blizzard has suggested multiple times that want RNG on top of RNG in their game. That’s just the truth. Nobody wants to talk about that though.