New DH Set Bonues (Discussion Thread)

In a future PTR build we’ll be making the following changes to Demon Hunter set bonuses, with the goal of making them exciting to a broader array of combinations of talent/legendary/covenant powers. We heard the feedback that the prior Havoc bonus was limiting your build diversity, and wanted to address that so that everyone’s excited about their tier set. As a result, Havoc’s 4pc has been completely replaced and 2pc updated, and Vengeance is being changed as we’d previously discussed.

Havoc
• 2PC: Increases Blade Dance and Chaos Strike damage by 20%. This bonus also applies to Death Sweep and Annihilation while in Metamorphosis.
• 4PC: Metamorphosis duration is increased by 6 sec. Every 60 Fury you consume reduces the cooldown of Metamorphosis by 1 sec.

Vengeance
• 4PC: Consuming a Lesser Soul Fragment reduces the remaining cooldown of your Immolation Aura or Fel Devastation by 1 sec.

While these numeric values are still subject to change, we’re looking forward to getting this bonus in your hands.

As a VDH, I’m happy with this change. The previous set bonus was always going to be an all-or-nothing bonus. Either it gave us 100% uptime on Immo Aura, and thus gave us OP damage, or it was worthless. The set bonus gave us basically nothing in terms of defense at all, so unless it gave us the damage, it was going to be utterly worthless. Now we have a set bonus that allows for roughly 100% uptime on Immo Aura (without keeping the same Immo Aura, so no ridiculous Growing Inferno shenanigans), and gives us significantly more use out one of most important CDs. Overall, looking quite good.

Issue that I have is that you don’t really need Immolation Aura’s cooldown to be lower than its duration, and due to Growing Inferno you want Immolation Aura to go full duration before you recast it. Meaning that it’ll eat a lot of CD:R from Fel Devastation, which honestly makes the 4 Piece fight against itself.

Now if they made it so Immolation Aura can’t have it’s CD be reduced more than 10-25%, or changed it to Immolation Aura AND Fel Devastation, or just flat out removed the Immolation Aura CD:R from the 4 Piece I think it’d be much better.

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feel like the veng bonus should focus more on demon spike instead of immo. like extending the duration of demon spikes / increasing effectiveness by x%.

kinda torn on havoc see alot of potential “builds” but it seems its rly gonna come down to how many chaos strikes can you pump out to lower meta more…which is gonna favor a momentum build which im personally sick of playing

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Honestly I think dropping Immolation aura from the 4 piece would be better. Getting consistent CD reduction for Fel Dev would be great and would sizably increase the amount of time we would get Meta from Demonic.

My problem with the new Havoc set is the reverse of the problem with the former set. The last one drastically favored First Blood and Dancing with Fate. This set drastically favors the Cycle of Hatred and Relentless Onslaught. I understand it is hard to find a middle ground and set bonuses can usually sway talent choices but this seems like it was almost done to appease those who didn’t want to change builds for the set bonuses. The fact is right now that build already out preforms any First Blood Set ups and now the lead is going to be farther compounded once you acquire your set bonuses.

But hey if it is what the people want then give them what they want.

I am not sure how this might impact the “Momentum Break” build VS go to build. If both builds generate and spend fury at relatively the same pace I would assume they will remain fairly on par. If not then whichever generates and spends faster will edge the other out.

Gotta interject here, Relentless Onslaught gives a free Chaos Strike at zero fury, so its not going to make any difference to the 4pc as no fury is actually being spent

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as a pvp only person i’ll be grabbing the 2 set and using necro leggo / burning wound. should be fun