New Customization Options for Blood Elves and Void Elves

[Sarallesta-sargeras]

Well, I think Shadow needs to look for real proof on where it says lorewise that Void Elves are a new race.

[Starlagosa-dentarg (Starlagosa)]

@Aguni-illidan

I have no faith in Blizzard. They jumped the shark already.

After this last taking Blood Elf options and giving them to devolve Void Elves…I agree.

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[Velftroy-frostmourne]

@Aguni-illidan

Literally was the reason Ion stated void elves were picked over high elves.

He literally never said they couldn’t look normal or they couldn’t stifle their Void affliction and magics.

@Aguni-illidan

Cool, while we are talking about Alleria, what happens to her when she goes into combat?
She turns all voidy gal. She doesn’t remain looking like a high elf that you and several other high elf fans have focused on. It is completely ignoring the actual void elf behavior because of the fascination of wanting to be a tolkien trope, in a game where said tolkien trope is already [resent.

Alleria’s “Voidy Gal” transformation is completely selective on her behalf. Play through the Siege of Lordaeron to see that she can also fight without entropic embrace. SHe’s still a Void Elf even then, even though she’s not fighting with it.

@Aguni-illidan

This is quite literally the same thing.
What makes worgen, worgen? They turn into wolves.
What makes a void elf a void elf? They are of the void.

It’s not. But even if it was, we have seen Genn fighting without his Worgen form. Does that mean he isn’t Gilnean or he doesn’t have the Worgen curse? No. Them being able to choose whether they want to be in Worgen form or not has literally no effect on anyone.

@Aguni-illidan

These facetious responses are old. I would rather you, and several other users just be honest and say

“I just don’t want any void and I want to look exactly like a blood elf but I don’t want to roll Horde.”.

IS this coming from the same guy that tried using the “Two dolls” argument? I feel like you’re projecting. IT’s kind of seems clear that you only care about the visual aesthetic of a race. You can’t seem to realize there’s a lot more depth to them than just their appearance.

[Sarallesta-sargeras]

@Starlagosa-dentarg

devolve

Except Void Elves did not evolved. How can Void Elves devolve if they haven’t even evolved?

[Nicodemùs-argent-dawn (Nicodemùs)]

I would say that Void Elves fall under that same category as Orgrimmar Orcs and Lightforged Draenei. They aren’t really a different race but rather have had a fundamental magical element introduced into their bodies which makes them differ from other Thalassians. I personally don’t consider that making them a different race though.

If real world genetic testing existed in Azeroth, I’d guess that they’d still be considered Thalssian elves though probably fall under the category of a different ethnic background due to the changes the Void has wrought within them.

I’d also say that Nightborne would technically be considered Night Elves but a different ethnicity due to changes wrought by time and exposure to the Nightwell.

Of course that’s complete conjecture on my part.

[Sarallesta-sargeras]

@Nicodemùs-argent-dawn

I’d also say that Nightborne would technically be considered Night Elves but a different ethnicity due to changes wrought by time and exposure to the Nightwell.

Well, in the Warcraft Chronicles, it has been stated that Nightborne are a different race from the Night Elves.

@Nicodemùs-argent-dawn

I would say that Void Elves fall under that same category as Orgrimmar Orcs and Lightforged Draenei. They aren’t really a different race but rather have had a fundamental magical element introduced into their bodies which makes them differ from other Thalassians. I personally don’t consider that making them a different race though.

If real world genetic testing existed in Azeroth, I’d guess that they’d still be considered Thalssian elves though probably fall under the category of a different ethnic background due to the changes the Void has wrought within them.

I agree.

[Nicodemùs-argent-dawn (Nicodemùs)]

Well WoW writers seem to use the term “race” rather loosely. But hey if they say they are a different race, I won’t argue much.

[Avarie-farstriders]

What? All that’s confirmed is skin tones. How is that 90% of what I wanted? I want a high elf ar with either druids or shaman as an option, with expanded lore for them. I never wanted to lump them in with void elves. How is skintones for void elves 90% of what I want?

[Sarallesta-sargeras]

@Avarie-farstriders

What? All that’s confirmed is skin tones. How is that 90% of what I wanted? I want a high elf ar with either druids or shaman as an option, with expanded lore for them. I never wanted to lump them in with void elves. How is skintones for void elves 90% of what I want

EXACTLY THIS!

[Nicodemùs-argent-dawn (Nicodemùs)]

Many on the anti side didn’t want us to get an inch. And they see skin color as us getting a mile and fear us getting anything more. So they oppose any requests for more with great fervor.

[Lannisterian-tichondrius]

I’m just sad there is still not news on Undead BE / Dark Ranger aesthetic customization. I want the player agency to decide I’m a recently fallen loyalist who was raised in the fourth war!

And news to finally explicitly say “yes the new recruits do encompass the High Elf Wayfarers in the rift”.

Then I will be happy, personally speaking for myself of course.

[Aleona-windrunner]

That would be so dopeee!! I would def make an undead dark ranger on the Horde.

[Nicodemùs-argent-dawn (Nicodemùs)]

Agreed. I want in-game lore saying that some High Elves are joining the Void Elves. And I also want Darkfallen customization options for Blood Elves so they can be San’layn or Dark Rangers. It seems like such an easy win for Blizzard. The work is already done. All they need to do is flag it for player use.

[Aguni-illidan]

@Aleona-windrunner

“Why does it matter if it doesn’t affect you”

It does affect me, who are you to declare otherwise?
Rest of your post has been responded to before.

@Sarallesta-sargeras

Well, I think Shadow needs to look for real proof on where it says lorewise that Void Elves are a new race.

Bleeding purple, having tentacles, not being connected to a sunwell…

@Velftroy-frostmourne

He literally never said they couldn’t look normal or they couldn’t stifle their Void affliction and magics.

SO ion says “we did void elves because high elves would look too similar” means to you “void elves can look like high elves even though this would completely contradict what I just stated.”.

@Velftroy-frostmourne

Play through the Siege of Lordaeron to see that she can also fight without entropic embrace

More than likely a bug given every other time she has ever engaged in combat, including the three sisters fight, she turns voidy girl.

Just like when people claimed Jaina directly killed blood elves due to a bug with the game. This is just reaching on your part.

@Velftroy-frostmourne

It’s not. But even if it was, we have seen Genn fighting without his Worgen form. Does that mean he isn’t Gilnean or he doesn’t have the Worgen curse? No. Them being able to choose whether they want to be in Worgen form or not has literally no effect on anyone.

Well…

1. You aren’t in a position to say who it does, or does not affect.
2. He wolf’s out when he fights. The situations you refer to are those where he literally is doing the bare minimum.
   3.By lore, Worgen transform when fighting, just like Alleria does when fighting .

@Velftroy-frostmourne

I feel like you’re projecting.

That word does not mean what you think it does.

@Velftroy-frostmourne

IT’s kind of seems clear that you only care about the visual aesthetic of a race

Hey guys, the aesthetics of a race are completely unrelated to the races in the game. Clearly, orcs are just green human.

@Velftroy-frostmourne

You can’t seem to realize there’s a lot more depth to them than just their appearance.

Trying to use an argument of lore to institute a change that affects the aesthetic of race which is a gameplay matter, is just nonsense in itself.
Lore arguments belong in lore.
Gameplay design, like aesthetics, involve matters of faction uniqueness.

Otherwise, if you were truly genuine in your thoughts and not merely looking for an exception, you would ask for the faction boundary to go away entirely.

[Fezzy-draenor (Fezzy)]

@Lannisterian-tichondrius

I’m just sad there is still not news on Undead BE / Dark Ranger aesthetic customization.

This would be my last desire for belf customization… I have plans…

@Lannisterian-tichondrius

And news to finally explicitly say “yes the new recruits do encompass the High Elf Wayfarers in the rift”.

Absolutely this would be so welcome!

[Sarallesta-sargeras]

@Aguni-illidan

Bleeding purple, having tentacles, not being connected to a sunwell…

So, can we say that High Elves and Blood Elves are a different race, considering using Fel Magic changed them as well?

[Tabasa-earthen-ring]

@Lannisterian-tichondrius

I’m just sad there is still not news on Undead BE / Dark Ranger aesthetic customization. I want the player agency to decide I’m a recently fallen loyalist who was raised in the fourth war!

I still think this is possible, it may just be a while before we hear anything. Unless I’m mistaken there really hasn’t been any new news on customizations for anyone lately.

I have a feeling it wouldn’t get the same kind of major announcement on the forums. We’d either see it pop up from datamining as a player option, or it will be in a larger announcement or reveal closer to release of the expansion.

Also, even if it’s not in this first round of new customizations, there’s nothing to say it still couldn’t be added later on. Keep carrying that torch, dude, cheering you on!

[Aguni-illidan]

Well, let us compare.
Still bleeds red.
No physiological changes besides eye glow.
Still connected to the sunwell just like high elves.

Nope…can’t say it.

For being a lore hound you don’t seem to care for it.

[Aleona-windrunner]

Correct me if I’m wrong but wasn’t there something like red eyes for blood elves that were datamined?

[Tabasa-earthen-ring]

There was, but it wasn’t clear whether or not it was going to be usable by players. Iirc it was flagged as an NPC option.

But then I guess the blue eyes were also at first so who knows?