New Cpu or Gpu

That didn’t happen until afterwards.

Early on, it was only AMD cards that were affected.

Did you not read my post at all?

The 1060 3gb was fine two years ago at it’s MSRP of $199 (I got a $20 off sale for BF) compared to the RX 470/570 with MSRP of…$179. They were directly comparable in both price and performance.

You’re just mad they called it a GTX 1060…which is a valid argument.

Not necessarily

AMD cards were taken first for mining, then overtime when AMD was constantly being out of stock, programmers that made the mining software then took advantage of Nvidia CUDA cores, for example Nicehash have a miner that favors Nvidia, mined Ethereum and in return you were paid in Bitcoins

That’s exactly what I said… They weren’t affected as much as AMD, until later.

1 Like

God damn, Polaris and even Vega were very very very very difficult to come by at msrp back in the day. AMD definitely got hit worse by the mining boom.

OP if you wait for a 3600…

296 votes and 222 comments so far on Reddit

At stock single thread, 3600 beats the 9600k

in realistic applications (overclock) vs. overclock, the intel is still faster at single.

that said, it sucks at everything else compared to the 3600.

Um, the 3600 boosts at 4.2 GHz by PBO

My 2700x with PBO enabled on Ryzen master makes it boost to 4.35 ghz

https://www.reddit.com/r/hardware/comments/ayhkr0/259_cinebench_r20_benchmark_results_and_counting/

8700k and 9700k get 500 cinebench single thread at 4.7-4.8 GHz

Your 8700k at 5 GHz is 523

The 3600 is only at 4.2 GHz for boosting alone, if a 3950x can reach 4.7 GHz then there’s no reason a 3600 can OC to 4.5 GHz+

On that Reddit link, 8600k got 570 at 5.4 ghz

Which means an OC 3600 at 4.4-4.5 would probably be close to 580 :grinning:

Yes, 523 is indeed better than 504.

You don’t know if the 3600 can reach higher than it’s PBO.

Most Ryzen 2 chips can’t OC past their PBO commonly.

Meanwhile, almost all 8600/9600/8700/9700/9900ks can hit 5ghz or better.

We will see.

These new chips aren’t game changing. If you already have a reasonably high core count Intel or Ryzen chip, there’s no real need to upgrade.

Obviously, I’ve already recommended getting a Ryzen 2000 series and will probably continue to recommend the 3000 series.

But not for upgrading from any recent CPU, and I am not recommending Intel over AMD right now.

But let’s not get out of objectivity here. These new chips don’t suddenly make 8700ks obsolete.

If this difference in performance is that important, then you never should have ever recommended Ryzen 1000 or 2000 over Coffeelake.

Yes, but given previous examples

1200 at 4.0 GHz

https://www.reddit.com/r/overclocking/comments/aakj29/405ghz_on_a_ryzen_3_1200_70c_on_a_wraith_stealth/

It’s stable btw, was during stress test

1200 boosts at 3.4

2600 boosts at 3.9

2600 OC’s by various people

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/9qxep0/what_are_yall_ryzen_5_2600_overclocks/

It looks like 5ghz+ needs serious cooling for these new chips.

Yeah I don’t expect anyone to get 5ghz on even an AIO with an all core overclock. Luckily for games, “single” core turbo is enough.