New class for upcoming expansion?

[Wonderclam-icecrown]

Do you think we’ll get a new class in the next WoW expansion? Seems like that would draw a lot of people back in.

[Liianas-khaz-modan]

@Wonderclam-icecrown

Do you think we’ll get a new class in the next WoW expansion?

The Tinker class is a popular concept that seems pretty likely.
A class that uses Guns, Explosives, Technology, and Mechs.

• Just Like Death Knight, Monk, and Demon Hunter. Tinkers are based on a Hero Unit in WC3.

• There were Significant Tinker NPCs in BFA. Including Island Expedition teams that had 3 specs, DPS, Healer, and Tank.

• The New Tutorial zone, Exiles Reach, has a Tinker NPC.

• We really need a new Ranged Class, and a new Intellect Class, and a new Mail Armor class. Tinker could be all 3.

• With Gallywix gone, The Racial Leaders for Goblins and Gnomes (Gazlowe and Mekkatorque) are both Tinkers.

[Wonderclam-icecrown]

Where did that information come from?

[Liianas-khaz-modan]

What do you mean, exactly? Everything I listed in observable in World of Warcraft, or in WarCraft 3.

Blizzard hasn’t given an Ironclad piece of evidence that they are developing a new class. But I think Tinkers are likely, particularly because of what I listed above.

[Fenelon-wyrmrest-accord]

@Wonderclam-icecrown

Do you think we’ll get a new class in the next WoW expansion?

I’d like that.

I really want Necromancer, but Tinkerer and Bard are high on my list as well.

Warden I could see as well if they get a little creative.

[Vincent-nathrezim]

@Wonderclam-icecrown

Where did that information come from

It’s also a fully supported class in the Warcraft 3 official RPG, with something like 20 pages on crafting rules. They are extremely OP at higher levels, and have several prestige class options. They basically fill the roll of the party skill-monkey and as they get stronger they kind of migrate into a full spellcaster role through their devices.

I actually posted the base class last week

@Vincent-nathrezim

-TINKER-

Races: Tinkers are most commonly found among
the dwarves, gnomes and goblins. With their general
disinterest in technology, night elves, orcs and tauren
are the least likely to be tinkers.

Alignment: Any.

Affiliation: Any.

Abilities: Tinkers favor Intellect in order to
freely develop their skills, the better to design, build
and operate their inventions. As tinkers often try
to dance around the periphery of combat rather
than dive into the middle of the fray, Agility is
favored as well.

Hit Die: d6.

Class Skills Class Skills
The tinker’s class skills (and the key ability for
each skill) are Appraise (Int), Concentration (Sta), Craft
(Int), Craft (technological device) (Int), Craft (trade
skill) (Int), Decipher Script (Int), Disable Device (Int),
Forgery (Int), Knowledge (all taken individually,
except arcana and religion) (Int), Open
Lock (Agy), Profession (Spt), Search
(Int), Use Magic Device (Cha) and
Use Technological Device (Int). See
Chapter 5: Skills for skill descriptions.

Skill Points at 1st Level: (8 + Int
modifi er) x 4.
Skill Points at Each Additional
Level: 8 + Int modifi er.

Class Features Class Features
Weapon and Armor Profi ciency: A tinker is profi cient
with all simple weapons.

Bonus Feats: A tinker begins play with a bonus feat in
addition to the feat received by all 1st-level characters.
This feat must be a technology feat (see Chapter 6: Feats),
or it may be an Exotic Weapon Profi ciency that allows
the tinker to wield a technological weapon (with the
exception of fi rearms). The tinker also receives a bonus
eat at 5th level and every five levels thereafter (10th,
15th and 20th). A tinker must meet all prerequisites for
his bonus feats.

Packrat (Ex): Tinkers tend to carry about packs and
pouches full of heavy tools, spare parts and inventions
both fi nished and incomplete. In doing so, they quickly
develop the ability to shoulder casually otherwise
crushing burdens. A tinker of 2nd level or higher
calculates his carrying capacity as if he possessed 5 bonus
points of Strength.

Scavenge (Ex): A tinker of 2nd level or higher can
put together devices out of random piles of spare parts or
whatever wires and gears he happens to be carrying in his
pockets at the time. A tinker who succeeds at a Search
check with a DC equal to 15 + the intended device’s
overall Technology Score (TS) can gather random
materials suffi cient to substitute for raw materials equal
to half the tinker’s level x 50 gp.

Cobble (Ex): Tinkers prefer to spend days, weeks or
even months constructing the devices they design. When
adventuring, though, tinkers are often forced to throw
together a device more quickly. A tinker of 3rd level or higher
can make Craft (technological device) checks for progress on
a device’s construction once per hour, rather than the normal
once per week (see Chapter 11 on the device construction
process). However, after the device is complete, the device’s
Malfunction Rating is increased by +5. Further, it will
continue to increase by +1 each time the device is operated,
and no repair or upgrade can decrease it.
At 3rd level, the tinker may use the cobble ability
once per week. Each fi ve levels thereafter (8th, 13th and
18th), the tinker may use the ability one additional time,
to a maximum of four times at 18th level.

Bomb Bouncing (Ex): At 4th level, a tinker learns
an esoteric technique developed by mad goblin tinkers
and passed along to their brethren — the art of bomb
throwing. When throwing a grenade-like weapon, a
tinker with the bomb bouncing ability imparts a spin
to the object that doubles the thrown object’s range
increment.

Evasion (Ex): Beginning at 4th level, a tinker gains the
evasion ability and can avoid even magical and unusual
attacks with great agility. If a tinker with the evasion
ability makes a successful Refl ex saving throw against an
attack that normally deals half damage on a successful
save (such as a burning hands spell or an exploding
phlogiston boiler), he instead takes no damage. Evasion
can be used only if the tinker is wearing light armor or no
armor. A helpless tinker (such as one who is unconscious
or paralyzed) does not gain the benefi t of evasion.

Coolness Under Fire (Ex): At 5th level, a tinker has
employed his skills in dangerous situations often enough
that he learns how to remain calm in combat even when
operating complex controls or working to repair delicate
machinery. Once per day, the tinker can take 10 on any
roll that involves the construction, operation or repair of
a technological device, even when circumstances would
otherwise prevent it. This ability cannot be used for
attack rolls, so the tinker cannot take 10 when operating
a weapon such as a blunderbuss or a steam saw.
For each two tinker levels achieved beyond 5th level,
a tinker can use the coolness under fi re ability one
additional time per day, to a maximum of eight times per
day at 19th level.

Energy Resistance (Ex): Tinkers are exposed to raw
and powerful energies in the course of their work, and
often develop a degree of resistance to one kind or another.
Upon reaching 6th level, a tinker may select a single type
of energy — acid, cold, electricity, fi re or sonic — and gain
5 points of resistance to that type of energy. Whenever the
tinker would take damage of that energy type (whether
from a natural or magical source), the damage is reduced
by 5 points before being applied to the tinker’s hit points.
At 12th level, 16th level and 20th level, the tinker gains an
additional 5 points of energy resistance. This resistance may
be of the same type, or spread across multiple energy types.
As it is not a supernatural or spell-like ability, a tinker’s
energy resistance stacks with resistance gained from spells
such as protection from energy and resist energy.

Improved Evasion (Ex): At 14th level, a tinker’s
evasion ability improves. He still takes no damage on
a successful Refl ex saving throw against attacks such
as a burning hands spell or exploding device, but
henceforth he takes only half damage even on a failed
save. As always, a helpless tinker (such as one who is
unconscious or paralyzed) does not gain the benefi t of
improved evasion

Table 3–17: The Tinker (Tkr) Table 3–17: The Tinker (Tkr)
Class Level Base Attack Bonus Fort Save Ref Save Will Save Special
1st +0 +0 +2 +2 Bonus feat
2nd +1 +0 +3 +3 Packrat, scavenge
3rd +2 +1 +3 +3 Cobble (1/week)
4th +3 +1 +4 +4 Bomb bouncing, evasion
5th +3 +1 +4 +4 Bonus feat, coolness under fi re (1/day)
6th +4 +2 +5 +5 Energy resistance 5
7th +5 +2 +5 +5 Coolness under fi re (2/day)
8th +6/+1 +2 +6 +6 Cobble (2/week)
9th +6/+1 +3 +6 +6 Coolness under fi re (3/day)
10th +7/+2 +3 +7 +7 Bonus feat
11th +8/+3 +3 +7 +7 Coolness under fi re (4/day)
12th +9/+4 +4 +8 +8 Energy resistance 10
13th +9/+4 +4 +8 +8 Cobble (3/week),
coolness under fi re (5/day)
14th +10/+5 +4 +9 +9 Improved evasion
15th +11/+6/+1 +5 +9 +9 Bonus feat, coolness under fi re (6/day)
16th +12/+7/+2 +5 +10 +10 Energy resistance 15
17th +12/+7/+2 +5 +10 +10 Coolness under fi re (7/day)
18th +13/+8/+3 +6 +11 +11 Cobble (4/week)
19th +14/+9/+4 +6 +11 +11 Coolness under fi re (8/day)
20th +15/+10/+5 +6 +12 +12 Bonus feat, energy resistance 20

[Duvainíl-moon-guard]

Dark ranger.

As sylvanas can’t go back to leading them (she is no longer jailor controlled and no magic to control them), many would not be down for following her since they never asked to be made that way to begin with (like dk’s said we out…when arthas’s power waned).

Horde and alliance now have undead rangers running about with nothing to do.

Inb4 Sigh, more elves…make it open race. BFA was about showing sylvanas (banshee Jailor edition) expanded the T virus program. At lordearon the zombie gas worked on race besides humans.

And nathanos shows humans can be rangers to. Anyone can really. they are basically DK’s. Dk’s who don’t wear plate and use a bow.

But but they aren’t in MOP. Not in wrath. Not in classic. Neither was a void elf but here we are. The now!

[Liianas-khaz-modan]

@Duvainíl-moon-guard

Dark ranger.

While I think Dark Rangers could Fit WoW’s Lore and universe, I do have 1 point I want to raise.

The Dark Ranger Hero unit in WC3 already has all of their abilities in WoW. Primarily on Shadow priest. with Silence and Mind Control. The most Iconic abilities of Dark Ranger. (Life Drain went to Warlock, of course.)

You compare this to Tinker, for example. None of their abilities are In World of Warcraft yet.

And on a personal note, I dont want another edgy, darkness, class.
But I admit that is a subjective opinion.

I Think Dark Rangers would be a fine fit, They make perfect sense. But they wouldn’t interest me personally.

[Duvainíl-moon-guard]

Fair points made.

Angle I am seeing is they will probably keep sylvanas around in 10 since we must keep up the brand. She is a big part of “the Brand”.

She created then left behind a small army of super soldier hunters as it were.

Their fate to me needs to be addressed. Or…they opt to do what they did with DH’s and pretend it never existed. I used to have an army of naga and 6 armed demons. Used to. where they went? No one knows. Not even the writers it seems. We were supposed to forget this bit it seems.

they can’t do this twice. well they can. and then they rate a certified hack writer certificate then.

[Liianas-khaz-modan]

@Duvainíl-moon-guard

Angle I am seeing is they will probably keep sylvanas around in 10 since we must keep up the brand. She is a big part of “the Brand”.

She’s taken up 3 cinematic expansion trailers so far. I’m sick of her.

@Duvainíl-moon-guard

Their fate to me needs to be addressed. Or…they opt to do what they did with DH’s and pretend it never existed.

I’ll take expectable outcomes for 500$.

Personally I wouldn’t mind Dark Rangers, I wouldn’t parade around saying they’re a bad addition. But I don’t think it’s as likely as Tinker.

Blizzard could rip the concept from WC3, Slap some talent on it, and use the 3 specs from the Island teams.
Give them a class quest on exile’s reach. And bingo-bango. There’s your class.
If I have learned on thing about blizzard, it’s that they will do the minimum amount of work to create the maximum amount of hype.

[Kaurmine-area-52]

@Wonderclam-icecrown

Do you think we’ll get a new class in the next WoW expansion?

Hope so

[Titus-eitrigg]

We don’t need a new class. We need a rethinking of current classes, specs, races & maybe most importantly factions.

[Sevenrabbit-moon-guard]

God I hope they add a new class, the gameplay is getting too stale now with all the same classes and specs. The devs have said in the past they keep the imbalance between classes because they like the variety and don’t want all classes to be on the same level. So a new class won’t affect the game in anyway, just make alot of people happy.

[Hyssix-emerald-dream]

@Titus-eitrigg

We don’t need a new class. We need a rethinking of current classes, specs, races & maybe most importantly factions.

We need a technology-based class. We have multiple races that are tech based and have no classes that fit their racial lore.

[Alysiel-dathremar]

@Fenelon-wyrmrest-accord

Necromancer, Tinker and Bard…

These would be such fun.

[Sevenrabbit-moon-guard]

@Fenelon-wyrmrest-accord

Necromancer, Tinker and Bard…

I want a new class thats never been in any warcraft games before, I can’t think of one but I’m sure blizz can use their imaginations and surprise us with one.

[Swarf-proudmoore]

I think Tortollans are a great candidate for a second neutral race.

Also, I seen someone recently suggest a racoon like race for the Alliance, as a balance to Vulpera in the Horde. I like the idea.

[Duvainíl-moon-guard]

I know…a balanced one.

couldn’t help myself, I will see myself out.

[Titus-eitrigg]

Rethink gnome & goblin hunter, warrior & rogue to implement more tech. Rethink. We don’t need a tinker class, we need a tinker-type racial ability modifier.

[Fenelon-wyrmrest-accord]

@Sevenrabbit-moon-guard

I want a new class thats never been in any warcraft games before,

Bard.

Technically never been a real thing in wow and wasn’t in wc3.