New BM looking for advise

Im getting into BM monk. I have a pally tank and a BDK now that I tank with. I was wondering if someone could tell me the best defensive stat pri for running mythic plus 10 and under. Thanks in advance.

I’m no expert BrM as I am a WW main, so my knowledge of the other monk specs may be a bit dated. That said, I usually just stat vers mast and things usually work out fine if i ever have to tank a M+. I don’t know what to add since you’re asking about defensive stats specifically. You can always go visit peakofserenity, and check out their BrM guide for a more comprehensive overview of BrM’s statting.

As for Azerite traits, i just stack Training of Niuzao and Straight No Chaser for the most part.

Crit and versatility as a brm. Purely due to the fact crit increases healing done to you by way of the passive celestial something

Yup. Verse and crit my dude. My monk is sitting at 30% crit and usually heals 20k+ self healing per an average fight or pull in a +10. The harder the mobs hit the more you will heal and the tankier you will feel in comparison to other tanks. Use the brewmaster to push into higher keys than you might normally feel comfortable tanking and you will get a lot more out of your ability to stagger and self heal. I just came back a few weeks ago and my brewmaster started pushing into +10s right around 410 ilvl and felt plenty solid.

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Thanks all for the info. Gavinen can you link me your Monk so I can look at your set up please? Thanks

Got a bit of a different setup now. Stuck with a good bit more haste than I would prefer. Currently enchanting for some extra verse because it is low. The crit is at a good spot. I like the feel of 25-35% crit… but giving up crit for some verse makes a pretty significant difference in bigger pulls and hits in M+.

Remember versatility reduces the damage you take while increasing the healing you do. you heal more while losing less hp for each stack of expel harm. Honestly once you have 10% haste and 25% crit i would stack nonstop versatility because that stat just compliments everything you do so well it aint funny.

(Gavinens monk)

If haste lowers the cool down of our brews and Keg smash whish also lowers the cooldown of brews wouldnt a full haste / crit build be very defensive? That would ( I think ) let us have way more PB to use rite?

15% haste is honestly too much for my taste and I am trying to get it back down to 10-12% range. The trick with haste is that its usefulness diminishes really quick and yiu are getting a free 15% anyways from lvl 100 talents when you allow yourself to sit in red stagger. You and your healers should get used to balancing your hp bar at the start of red stagger. Keeping yourself in yellow and green will only result in you hurting for brews and falsly believing you need more haste… think of it like this… even if you generate enough brews to purify 1 or 2 more times in a fight… is it worth taking away all of that extra healing from crit? Or the flat damage reduction from verse? The way gift of the ox works is that we get orbs based off of how much damage we take completely unmitigated. Every point in verse now reduces the damage you have to visably take before getting a gift of the ox orb. And every point of verse increases the effectiveness of the healing that orb gives you. Plus with more crit you have more chance of getting 160% normal healing from that orb that is now being summoned for less actual damage taken.

Yeah more haste offers more brews. But at 15% haste i am already nearly gcd locked and honestly i would be more survivable with more verse and crit. If there is a time I wish I had more brews at 10% odds are i would still wish i had more brews at 15% haste (maybe more because my effective hp would be lower and each point of damage i take would just feel like that much more than if i had swapped out 400 haste points for 400 versatility or crit).

The last boss in kings rest on tyranical weeks will quickly open your eyes to the value of haste vs the value of crit and verse… and even then i would say that boss is the best example of when more haste could be argued for… its still not worth it though imo.

All this said though i am only like 1k io so there are many more who know far better than me.

Check out peak of serenity on secondary stats for the math nerds explination if mine doesnt make sense. They are much more eloquent than me.

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You shouldnt have any issue with brews, my haste when brew is under 10% with the blackout combo + the 4 charge talent I never have an issue with brew charges.

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Just dont use BrM in 8.3 or you’ll hate your life.

Or you can just play what you like? Like if your not pushing top 500 mythic raiding then what you play doesn’t really matter.

And why is that? They didn’t any class changes

Hes talking about the stagger and 5% health nerf to us.
h ttps://www.wowhead.com/news=295502/blizzard-official-class-changes-for-patch-8-3-visions-of-nzoth

Meh I’m not super worried about it. Cause with how big the power curve has been from tier to tier the change I imagine is going to end up a paper nerf with the access of a 3rd minor essence. Especially with what the new essences might end up being

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Even with the nerfs brew will still be top tier for progress and will be strong in M+. Brewmaster is always going to either be top or bottom teir. There is no middle ground. The line in the sand simply doesnt allow it. you either smooth damage enough to be the best for progress or very suddenly you take so much damage noone wants you in a group at all.

Even the nerfs on ptr right now arent enough to take brew out of the top tier for progress. That is all blizzard balances around.

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The bug fix is a 50% reduction in healing, the health bonus decrease is a decrease in health pool by 14%, and the stagger changes result in 22% upfront damage taken.

Roll at your own peril.