Just opened BattleNet and got the message. Not long ago this happened to Roku also. Then not long after that revealed a massive data breach. Link if you want to read it https://www.blizzard.com/en-us/legal/fba4d00f-c7e4-4883-b8b9-1b4500a402ea/blizzard-end-user-license-agreement EDIT Also my main concern is if you try to take it to court outside of Arbitration is they could delete your account and block you from making a new one.
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We need to give the FTC some teeth again.
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They merged with Microsoft. Most likely they are just aligning with their standard ToS.
But remember their ToS can say whatever they want, it doesn’t mean you can’t still sue. There is lots of legal ambiguity when it comes to forced arbitration. especially when you are changing the terms after a product was already purchased.
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Arbitration is pretty common language in most EULA.
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This is going to suck for all those people who are used to using the courts to appeal in-game silences, and deal with ninja looters.
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How much of the playerbase does this effect in terms of it actually being enacted?
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This isn’t new.
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I mean let’s be honest - clicking “AGREE” to an EULA means absolutely nothing. You play a game - you are used to being presented with an ever-changing EULA that no one reads. It’s just how it is. We just click Agree. It’s certainly not legally binding.
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I am not surprised, I’d say most EULA and consumer contracts (banks, credit cards, the McDonald’s app lol) have the same language.
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like .000009%
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Does this mean FDK is getting a rework?
Not that I feel we need to worry about it, but to ease anyone who happens to be worrying: They cannot “legally hush” you if an event occurred which would warrant taking them to court. Again, I very much doubt we need to worry about this, but it’s something I have seen come up a lot (not even just in WoW, but in general everywhere) lately.
This is common now.
Courts used to not enforce / strike these contracts down as a violation of the 7th
In Suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed twenty dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no fact tried by a jury, shall be otherwise re-examined in any Court of the United States, than according to the rules of the common law.
Essentially they take that right away and force you into private corporate courts.
Ah man and I was just going to sue them for ripping off a new idea I had about a 50-person free for all game mode where the map gets progressively smaller as time progresses.
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^ This
I have an archive of Blizzard Terms/EULA. While not 100% complete it does have copies of the MoP EULA from back in 2010. Binding arbitration was a thing in the EULA back then.
The Change your looking at is at least 13 years old …
EDIT: Managed to track down the 2008 version of WoW’s EULA as well as a copy of the Starcraft & Diablo 2 installers. They also have binding arbitration clauses in there too. (05 April '24)
EDIT2: (05 April '24) In the interests of full disclosure here’s a link to my archive :
[Main EULA archive]
[Older EULA documents archive]
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Not sure what the brewhaha is about. They have had clauses regarding arbitration in there for ages; I remember reading them a long time ago.
Ultimately, as always, it comes down to this: if you want to play Wow, you accept. If you do not wish to accept, you do not play the game. Nobody forces you to accept their rules, you can click the other option that you don’t accept, and stop playing. The choice, as always, is each person’s to make.
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Im curious as to what on earth folks would be suing for at such a large scale that forced arbritration is needed. I understand Blizzard is no longer a very trustworthy company but umm is this game that serious in the real world?
As if anyone here has the resources to take on a behemoth like Blizzard in court.
Just hit accept and play. You arent important or powerful enough to spend brain cells on this.
Anyone saying this is common practice or to just hit accept are part of the problem. This is the slow erosion of rights on action.
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