New alliance AV premade meta

New Alliance AV premade meta has formed on Chinese servers, which is more effective and won’t affect pugs.

The principle is that you need to know an AV game which will end soon (ideally 5~10 mins, which will be your queue time), and then have your premade team all follow that game. By the time the game end, you all join the same new game, which has been proved to have ~35 players in the same game constantly.

The way to find AV games that will end soon may need some cooperation between teams in Discord. That’s all I know so far, maybe those Discords who are interested in this meta might find a better way.

Sorry for my poor English :frowning:

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I’m surprised more ppl aren’t discussing this

Thats a good strategy lol

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Once raid gear is comparable to gear awarded from the toxic honor system, all of these pvp and bg complaints will die down.

Literally all of the current issues trace back to the honor system and the nature of play that it requires to advance.

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The main issue preventing premades is a bug that is slated to be hotfixed soon. The group queue pooling is not intended.

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“Toxic”
Aight bro.

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Excellent!!!

And when you dodge the que because not enough got in … trial and error you create more games with ally starting with 5-6 … not sure how you think you’re not effecting pugs… that’s the entire point … manipulating the ques, trying to find new games and dropping them last second was the problem /./ sounds the same to me

According to blizzard a game won’t start with less than 20 people in it. If it does start direct your concerns to them

Hmm easy fix to this whole problem… Allow av 40 premades then horde and alli can ques are raid and the pugs will have longer ques but be put into game with 40 other pugs…

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if that is a new change that’s good then… I dont think blizz ever cared about ally being ableto premade against horde … nothing changed until your own faction turned on you… once you started to effect alliance … then changes needed to happen… I personally like the challenge of a completely pug chance group farming a pre selected premade as they afk in caves like babies … love that challenge … so please keep trying

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uh huh…sure it is.

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Well, the main issue here is the honor per hour with this is still right around the same for WSG.

I’ve heard a similar thing from folks in OCE, where it appears more exaggerated. Some have claimed to have contacted blizzard and they had commented it would be hotfixed in the coming hours. This was a couple days ago now. Does this align with what you’ve heard Bruce, let me know what you know.

Just dont trust everything you hear from us OCE - alot of people like to photoshop over twitter posts about hotfixes and such to create false info.

Here is a nice little comment for example.

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Haha don’t fret, I take all things of this nature with a grain (or many grains) of salt. But, this is what I’ve heard. Time will reveal all!

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This happened a lot during Vanilla.

Game would start with like 5 -10 people and suddenly a few minutes later 30+ people would pour in because their game just ended. I was pretty sure this would be the new way to premade, well something similar to it.

Safe space snowflakes

If you don’t assume 99% of what’s on the internet is a lie or fake I got some bad news lol

This workaround results in no dropped queues.

120 people join AV 6 which is currently full and estimated to end in 5 minutes.

Once AV 6 ends, wow creates 3 new AVs to accommodate all those who were waiting to get into AV.

We don’t know if we all got the same AV but it’s a pretty good bet we did do we join