2pc: Your healing spells have a chance to apply Insurance! to their targets that heals them for 805,686 over 15 sec. Insurance! is consumed if an ally drops below 40% health to heal them for 386,756.
4pc: Holy Word: Serenity and Holy Word: Sanctify apply Insurance! for 10 sec to one target while Apotheosis is active. Your healing is increased by 1% for each Insurance! active on allies.
Well… this looks very boring… also the set aesthetically looks awful
If we are not getting a spec tree revamp then I’m 100% skipping 11.1
Posted on the wrong char before, but I’m with you. If holy doesn’t get some major love for 11.1 I’m out for the season. I don’t need to play an LFG simulator anymore.
No interesting interaction with our kit and unless that proc chance is high, then it’s worse than our season one set.
The Set is a joke. That´s what we need, ANOTHER slow heal, doomed to overheal. I´m with Caffe - no Major 11.0 Rework and i´m done with Holyrpiest and therefor with the game since it´s the only spec i play.
I´m done starring into thre raidframes to spotheal while playing encountermechanics. Also forcing us into Aptheosis every content. How detached can the Holydev be, if there´s one?
At this point I’m convinced who ever is in charge of Hpriest either doesn’t play or hates the spec
No one specs into Apoth for raid because then you lose Salv so you only get it passively so you can’t line it up for any points where you might need more healing
It’s healing numbers are so low and especially as its a 15 second HoT and heals for less than a mil. Tanks are already over 10m hp in the current patch and I have no doubt that other specs are going to be near that in the next patch
Not sure where you got that info from but that’s only worth it on the last 4 bosses on mythic.
Everything else you take Salv / Do what your raid leader wants for healing CDs
Doesn’t this force use to use Apotheosis instead of Salv for all cases then? What kind of choice is that? Or is this a hint that they will rework the tree?
Honestly if anything I’m baffled they put out these 2 tier sets as the first ones as the hpriest one is going to be obviously unpopular, so it gives no faith that the rest will be any good.
I like the two piece but the four piece is a bit disappointing. I really dislike when they force us into a certain playstyle (Lightweaver, Apotheosis).
I think a 15 second HoT ain’t great given how large the hitpoints are but I do like the idea of some minor death protection (healing when health drops below 40%).
Side note: I really wish Power Word: Life was off the GCD.
Edit: The more I think about it the more I dislike this Tier Set. The two piece is fine as it’s just a passive thing but the four piece seems borderline skippable. Like, I think I will be pretty content to just use the two pieces with the best secondaries and ignore the other two. At least it doesn’t appear so powerful as a thing that you must change your playstyle around.
I’ve never seen numbers attached to a tier set before. Do the numbers scale with item level? 387k isn’t much healing Insurance!.
EDIT: I just saw the talent tree rework and it looks like they’re pushing us to casting single target heals and resource management. I’m bummed.
So looking at the tier set with the new talent changes in mind…
New Talent: Holy Celerity – Reduces the cooldown of your Holy Words by 15 seconds.
Lasting Words – Holy Word: Serenity applies 12 seconds of Renew to its target and Holy Word: Sanctify applies 4 seconds of Renew to allies it heals.
New Talent: Eternal Sanctity – Your Holy Words extend the duration of Apotheosis by 1.5 seconds.
New Talent: Holy Celerity – Reduces the cooldown of your Holy Words by 15 seconds.
Voice of Harmony is 1 point. LoTN is 2 points.
Apotheosis now reduces the cooldown of Holy Words by 200% (was 300%).
Apotheosis is going to be a major raid healing cd now because you cast Apo and can extend the duration to 35s+ while getting a stacking healing buff each time you use a Holy Word. You can probably keep it up to 5-6% each time…
The nerf to only 200% still makes it 2-3 casts to reset a Holy Word with it being 45s to reset a Holy Word. Haste will also end up becoming a prio stat IMHO.
Well… PoH is getting buffed, it is also now affected by resonant words and it’s also affected by Lightweaver and you can get a talent that after casting apotheosis your next 3 heals or PoHs are buffed by 25% more so the spell is getting quite some modifiers.
And since you can go Lightweaver + Prayer of circle you can get PoH casting time reduced by a lot, maybe around 1-1.2s
I think it’s waay more interesting than 11.0 hpriest gameplay (talking from an M+ perspective) we need to check if the numbers are fine.
The current bottom of the tree is hot garbage so it’s impossible for me to formulate any potential build concepts. There are serious give-and-takes and you lose out on more then you gain currently.
Yea I’m trying to get a raid build but the bottom tree is just impossible.
Can’t get answered prayers + lightweaver which both seem to be like completely mandatory.
But at the same time it’s impossible to get the new talent Lasting words…
It does feel veeeery restrictive
And if you drink two sips of tea before doing three spins clockwise under the moonlight, but it must be a full moon, and if you spit upwards and catch it in your mouth THEN you can cast three really fast PoH spells.
It’s gonna be awesome.
To the poster above–I enjoy raid healing and I agree, it feels like an extremely restrictive raid situation. I think that Holy was poor in M+ and this redesign is their solution and I also think that there were some oversights for raid. They will probably attempt to rely on Divine Hymn and Halo to make up for the poor Renew, PoM, and loss of CoH.
Lol you just need lightweaver stacks (Which you will always have pretty much cuz flash heal is your bread n butter and now has 4 stacks) and then just use Sanctify and that’s it.
If you think that’s complex then idk