I’ve played a lot of tanks. Bear druid and Prot paladin mostly. I’m getting my passive Warband XP buff up by leveling up a few characters to 80 and I’ve decided I’d like to try Monk out.
There is a lot of negativity about how Brewmaster functions in high Mythic keys (I wont be doing those right now, so that’s not a concern., But I do absolutely understand how the spec isn’t in favor right now compared to the other tanks) but how do they feel leveling from 1-80? If they’re not good, is there a different spec I should go?
Best thing about leveling tanks is if I feel like questing, I can do mass pulls and feel invincible. if I feel like tanking some queued dungeons for exp, I get very fast queues. With that in mind, how does Brewmaster feel while leveling?
Disclaimer: I know nothing about the class. The abilities sound like crazy asian voodoo and my only knowledge equates to “Wow that Tauren monk with the sweet hat just kind of flew in here and wrecked all the mobs. That was sick.”
Monk is a lot of fun, in any spec.
Go ahead and level as Brew. It’s super fun to play, stagger is a unique mechanic that let’s you get away with some crazy things. Unless they improved it, the in-game stagger monitoring isn’t great, find a weak aura (or maybe addon) to track it and you will feel completely invincible against pretty much everything you might encounter while leveling.
The negativity around the spec is absolutely valid but shouldn’t stop you having fun with it if you are just playing casually. There was a big rework going into this expansion and then nothing since despite plenty of constructive feedback. If they do end up addressing some of the concerns, the spec can only improve at this point.
(and if you want to dps/heal, and the overall monk aesthetic and playstyle still appeals, WW and MW are great to flex into).
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just imo, wow contents nowadays are not consistent across challanges & specs
give youu zekvir as example, my brewmaster have harder time surviving zekvir hits than my ww monk. this could also be the case when comparing among tanks in other challenges. sometimes my bm felt like suffering hits upfront as if stagger didnt work
if you like bm monk go for it. at least you can spec ww as its currently the one of the most reliable spec to clear zekvir as ww
i mean looking at this trend, monks could go a long way in the future because it has the best mobility
Brewmaster is really fun, i am a bit of a chameleon and i like to dabble in all three specs. WW is a really fun dps class, so if you ever start to get bored leveling as brew just switch to WW. It’s so zippy and fun.
Mistweaver is also really fun, very different than any other healer out there, as you spend most of your time in mid / close melee range and you are in there punching it up with the melee specs.
You can play a quasi-ranged version of it but it’s not 100%, same with the melee, you do not spend 100% of your time punching (unless your group is really good), but you have to step out of the action and do some direct heals for a bit and then pop back in. Escape from reality is a great talent for this.
Also once you get to the bottom of the general tree and get lighter than air… you’ll never want to not use that talent again…
It’s just really fun to dash mid air, and then walk on water …
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All three monk specs are extremely fun, so you can’t really go wrong. That being said, the tools that enable MW to truly shine via Fistweaving are fairly deep in the tree.
Either way, I personally recommend just leveling as whatever you’re most interested in playing end-game. Brewmaster has problems in higher keys, but they are still capable of doing said keys. It’s an extremely fun tank spec with the most involved rotation of any tank and a high skill ceiling. Very, very fun.
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Hi i’m a 3.1k+ mw and I’m just gonna recommend you go tank or dps. MW is not really desirable in high keys and often feels like we are the last choice that people want to make or if there’s no other choice. The only dungeon I think we are exceptional in is arak cause of our aoe dispels and control profile just being really good for the trash packs there, but arak is considered the easiest key in the season and besides maybe holy priest no heal spec really struggles there afaik. Transcendence lets us cheese the final bosses second most annoying mechanic after dot/waves and revival mass dispels the dot.
Other than that though it’s really not that good. I wish I could be any other healer for some boss pulls (except holy priest they have it worse) and you’ll consistently get passed over for disc priest and resto shamans when applying to keys especially 14-16. In addition to not being meta and therefore less desirable, heals feels like the most exclusive spot to apply for. If you open lfg most days at any given time and type 15 into the search bar we could hypothetically say there’s 10 keys in lfg and 7 of them already have healers. So now you have 3 keys to apply to and people want a disc or resto shaman. Some days i spend an average of 2 hours in lfg to get into a key worth IO, or even just to reroll my key off of, and then maybe that key depletes on a wipe to first pull like in NW or GB (or any point after) then you have to go back to dornogol and sit in lfg longer.
My point here is that it doesn’t feel very good to be a mist weaver right now in high keys. For a variety of reasons where our kit doesn’t agree with the content very well and the difficulty of even getting into high keys.
So depending “how high” you want do I have to recommend you just play windwalker or brew monk. Tanks are increasingly rare to the point that even not being prot paladin means you have somewhat decent odds of getting into a key. A lot of those keys I said hypothetically have a healer (7/10 possible ones?) They are very likely just need a tank to start most the time and they’re waiting for one. Especially on week days during morning hours or late at night they’ll prolly take anyone after a point. I know that’s how a lot of my keys end up taking the longest to start, waiting for a tank.
I want to say with no experience though that windwalker would be the easiest way to go, because there’s 3 spots to apply for and if the group isn’t looking for a specific thing for the last spot like a ranged kick for a particular boss or lust, I think you have the best chances of getting in. Also the lowest degree of responsibility outside of GB and NW. Most of these dungeons put a huge load on tank and heals while also punishing them more heavily for mistakes. DPS kick, cc, press defensives, maybe use some utility when it’s required and don’t step in bad. Tanks and heals have to do all of that and track people’s cool downs and manipulate enemies to position them cleverly and so on. So ye if just looking to play monk in high keys would recommend to playing WW. Least amount of responsibility, easier chance of getting into keys than as mw, people less picky about dps as long as lust is covered ime, and ngl karma looks pretty cool
Person asks about spec for leveling and you go on a diatribe about pugging viability in mythic plus…
To the OP… ww if you want to zoom from mob to mob, brm if you want to pull everything in sight and whittle it down (whittle being relative). Note, ww can pull large as well as long as you have a cd or two to pop.
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Wow m+ sounds fun! What level can I jump into that game mode, 10?
80 I think I haven’t tried to walk into one under 80