Also:
The Alliance Hall of Fame for Mythic Nzoth filled in April.
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/nyalotha-hall-of-fame-is-full/496468
Six months ago.
That’s what bothers me so much about these claims: They’re so full of lies.
Sort-of. But you’d only be able to group with someone on the opposite faction if they are in your guild. So a Belf can’t just see a random Human and group up with them.
It’s an objective fact that the Horde recruiting pool for PvE is far more active. Anyone denying this just because Alliance guilds managed to finally fill the Hall of Fame after having nearly 2 additional months to collect gear is arguing for the sake of arguing.
You’re taking divide as in faction. I’m talking about incentives creating a physical barrier for some players because they will feel the need to choose those incentives.
Thus why I said I don’t like the incentives idea.
Okay. So? Alliance was more active for years and you didn’t see anybody complaining it was an existential crisis.
Right, which was the point of my response. You asked how it created divide, that is my answer, it gives incentives.
I misunderstood. Apologies.
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The raiding scene was actually relatively balanced for quite a long time until top guilds started jumping to take advantage of racials. It’s been a snowball ever since.
Also, “it was like x before so not-x is acceptable” is not a valid argument. The goal is balance, not restoring a former similarly-bad status quo (as your argument suggests).
I don’t know about incentives, but I agree with the general idea. We already have neutral groups for NPCs like the Argent Crusade and the Cenarion Circle, so why not let the players make their own?
No its fine, I must’ve worded it poorly because it’s been confused several times now.
I don’t like the idea of incentivizing players to do anything that effects player populations.
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But the ability to be neutral is in and of itself an incentive. So there are incentives for either choice. How is this so hard to grasp?
No it wasn’t. Horde was tops in raiding since Burning Crusade despite Alliance being the far more numerous faction.
Why? Why was balance not an issue during all those years when there were more Alliance players, but now suddenly for the first time ever there are more Horde and you’re all acting like it’s the end of the world?
There is a difference between an out of game incentive, being able to play with friends, and an in game incentive, receiving currency for doing x. I do not think it is healthy to give people a currency or other in game incentive to do something that would exclude them from participating in what everyone else is. Why not just have neutral guilds, which is what I said earlier lol.
Also I’m not having difficulty grasping anything. Again, you asked for my thoughts in the post. You didn’t say “please agree with everything I say.”
Your thoughts were a debate against my position so I defended it. You were dismissing the idea without even explaining your point of view.
I am sure the Night Elves would love to have the people that burned down their home walking around Stormwind, great idea.
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I’ve explained my point of view multiple times. You just dislike my point of view. You asked for thoughts, not a debate dude.
No you did not you just claimed it would divide people even more and never gave an explanation as to why you thought that until much later. You’re talking like I can’t scroll up and see what you said.
Okay.
“You’re incentivizing staying loyal, people would choose that and not cross group.“
“I think you have to either allow complete cross faction gameplay, or don’t. Trying to find an in between just creates even more weird imbalances.”
Key words, I think. Which means it’s my point of view the incentivizing rewards is detrimental to population balance. I at no point dismissed what you said. I gave my own personal opinions on it.
That first one wasn;t in either of your first two posts.