Why do this? This is going to make a lot of Venthyr warriors regret their decision in 9.1. This is a bad move.
“But they’re not getting nerfed, it’s just other covenants are getting buffed” is the same thing.
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So you want them to leave the covenants unbalanced?
That’s a hot take
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I’m very sorry you feel that way.
Considering Night Fae is already BIS, I don’t understand your point.
I looked at the PTR notes and the only changes I see are:
-Arms getting PvE buffs + universal Overpower buff (Arms will still suck.)
-Protection getting an Execute buff (lol???)
-Fury getting MS through a PvP talent (finally)
-Venthyr legendary nerf (justified for Fury–unusable legendary for other specs pre-buff)
What nerfs are they getting? In regards to covenants, as long as Night Fae’s broken as hell covenant doesn’t get buffed any more, it shouldn’t matter much. Venthyr is still the best raiding covenant for warriors.
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Players want covenants balanced.
Balancing covenants is not the same thing as nerfing a covenant.
That’s my point.
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Non-Venthyr arms and prot gets +10% execute. Condemn is excluded.
That’s not a nerf to Venthyr. If anything, Night Fae needs its soulbinds nerfed.
It effectively is. Non-venth covs get +10% to a core ability in the class, and the cov ability that replaces that core ability gets diddly.
Venthyr could be like 50% behind the over covenants and I’d still pick it. Condemn goes BRRRRR.
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My warrior is Venthyr/Fury and I’d still take Condemn over +10% to execute any day.
You know, I wish they would approach nerfs/buffs by buffing the things that need it rather than nerfing the thing that is “OP and unbalanced” more often. I can’t presume to speak for everyone else but I’m sure a lot of other people would like that too.
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It’s great for single target. Night Fae is god in M+ though and it’s going to be even more godly now.
It’s effectively not, since the patch is still months out and I expect more changes.
Other covenants cannot Execute from 100-80%, and Condemn provides an absorb. It’s part of why it’s the best progression covenant.
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It’s safe to assume that each major content patch is probably going to involve a covenant change if you’re min/maxing. I’m really not surprised by this.
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If Venthyr was actually strong you may have a point, but as it stands NF is basically king still.
I’m getting nerfed? 
I still like Venthyr so I’m not budging even if it were nerfed to the ground
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Not surprising, but still a shame. Like watching a truck stalled on train tracks. Not surprised to see the outcome but still sucks regardless.
I mean dont’ get me wrong, Condemn is fun, but if non-Venth covs are getting +10% to a core class ability that Venths don’t touch, then yeah I call that a nerf.
Sure, but seeing as these things can be nerfed or buffed at any given time, most semi-serious players probably need to make their peace with that. I’d like the switching mechanism to be a bit less grindy, but it doesn’t look like Blizzard is going to back off on that.
yes.
that’s exactly what we want. no meta changes.
Condemn ignores armor, I’m fairly sure it scales better then execute hence the buff to execute for non-Venthyr?