Nerf Vengeance

Nearly all keys 14+ are pushing and asking only for DH tanks.
Blood DKs are getting the bottom along with Prot Warriors.
It is time to get this tuned down in pair with other tanks.

Thanks.

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Noooo… no, no.
Nah.

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Crazy idea. Buff the other tanks.

Edit - Here is the real problem. KITING.

Blizzard decided that face tanking mobs isn’t fun anymore. Now every tank has to learn how to kite. One problem though. No one has the mobility of a VDH, so they come out on talk.

Solution? Get rid of the need for kiting and let tanks face tank stuff again.

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Im guessing the main reason is their mobility to bypass certain obstacles. And thats their main schtick, so i doubt they will get hit with the nerf stick.

Short of reinventing Blood, no amount of buffs will make it be seen as viable in the current kiting meta.

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Yep. I just brought this up in my edit of the original post. Completely agree.

The real problem with high Keys isn’t Vengeance, it’s mob damage. No tank can face tank double pull fortified packs on 16-18 keys. You have to kite, and DH just so happens to take the least amount of damage and is also the best kiting tank. If tank damage reduction scaled better with mob damage, there would be more viable tanks for high keys.

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lol this is just false.

Make it so blood DK, at reasonable gear with 5 bone shield stacks have somewhere close to 70% physical damage mitigation. Problem solved.

They want tanks to work harder…for this kite meta bull**** that grants fun to no one even the tanks.

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Another of the issue tanks have is magic or stacking dots. Physical mitigation being higher won’t help with that.

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with the way how high m+ key works is that you are not face tanking the mobs like before. What you do is dip in do as much dps as you can in 5 to 7sec and then start kitting the mobs. You do this is because currently all mobs m +12 hits like a truck and no amount of armor CD and healing will allow you to face them trash. Therefore you go in do most damage in 5sec and get out which VDH is good at.

Oh and also Brewmaster is also good at this but is harder to play. Druid is also decent. But the other stationary tanks such as warrior, Port pally, Blood DK are not good/terrible with this system and also Blood DK is the squishiest tanks currently. Want change? Get blizzard to turn down the damage trash mob does. I can tell you very few tanks like to kite.

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Although I would laugh in front of the other class spec tanks (mua hahaha… problem palladin? :smiling_imp:) that are suffering, but the op of this class doesn’t seem correct and especially because of the abusive system of the Pelagos and Kirian soulbinds, it is really disappointing.

That’s why I would ask that you not become a nerf, but if a buffed class in the rest tanks classes, especially the Monk Tank since I see that from BfA the absence in mythics+ greater than 15 is suffering too much

I think that for 9.1 we will see a nerf in the DH or possibly a buffed in the rest of the Tank spec class in the next patch, which we will also see which class was more nerfed or which class surpassed the DH as seen in what each patch in the rest of the expansion.

I mean, you could also make it where Death Strike is AoE that one shots everything.

What would that solve ?

If you give Blood passive 70% physical mitigation right now, what will it be like in 9.3 when Armor and Strength values are much more inflated ? On top of the inflated healing Blood already does, that would just make them massively OP.

Without reinventing Blood into something other than the “Take all the damage, heal all the damage” tank, you’ll never make it be seen as viable for keys right now.

Blood dks were top of M+ for a very long time now. Why you so mad they finally got knocked down a ton? And warriors always have this problem…they scale higher into the expansion but when its first out they suck.

So far the best Tanks that I saw in the top of Raiderio and even in Bnet, are:

  1. DH Vengeance with kirian covenant (how i hate you this covenant)
  2. Warrior Prot with kirian covenant
  3. DK blood with venthir covenant.

Increase health pools of tanks in M+ significantly as well as all healers’ ST healing.

As a prot warrior, I’d rather have some buffs. Nerfing Demon Hunters is not going to fix my ability to perform in Mythic dungeons. Well, by Mythic dungeons I mean Necrotic Wake, that’s the only one I run because it’s the only gear I need. However, prot warriors need some love.

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It is not enough, and the problem of being special for these mythics + the DH tank and not the rest is being talked about.

That is why I think we will see in the next patch, a nerfed for the DH tank or its covenant, or a buff for the rest of the tanks to have a balance and a non-specific choice for any event in the game.

However, let’s not hope that Blizzard is excellent in the balance of the game and we have to see another tank class op that the community already chose but that will not be the DH, I think.

For you, I preferred that you buffed more stats to the Warrior Prot tank than nerfed the DH, because if it is not going to be him, you will have competition with the DK blood that is much better than the warrior prot tank and he preferred that no one is outside in any group of the game, be it pvp, pve, raids or world…

that depends on Blizzard

How so? I’m joining groups quite easily as prot pala.

And why nerf viable, instead of buffing underperforming?

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Delete VDH. Done. Still same meta but we will see the other 4 specs more often.

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