Spear should get abom limb treatment
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yeah man 1.5min cds do a lot of damage this is a pve game
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Spear honestly should do one yank max, just like DK grippy hands.
EDIT: Same with Shaman yanking totem.
Or make it so movement effects such as disengage or short movement abilities can get out of spear. I don’t even care if the Warrs keep their crit damage against me as like a debuff for X amount of seconds. Just let me run from the million gap closers Warrs have.
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If it does damage, why is it also one of the strongest CCs in the game?
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Im not sure if youre a troll or not… yes its a 1.5 min CD that locks someone down does insane damage/or increases all crits % and holds them for 2 more secs longer.
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i utilized my powers as a warrior
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This is really the issue.
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Defensives. That’s the counterplay.
I dunno, is this some issue that I’m too evoker to get or something? I just fly out of it.
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There is very minimal counter play. MW monks can revival out of it. Locks can instant gate out of, Rdruids would have to tranq… cant really wild charge out of it anymore, I dont think that rogues cloak works anymore. DH’s can meta outta it. I think they need to let priest Mass dispell it that would be a good one to add
just got told it doesnt work any more. thanks for the memes and not just saying that it doesnt work anymore.
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Yeah fr tho, nerf it.
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Let’s just nerf everyone 99% and see where that leaves us.
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I mean that sounds annoying but have you ever fought a rogue? Kidney, Cheap, Disarm, Evasion, back into a Kidney, repeat.
It’s fun not having control of your character.
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Yea, but dks have pretty poor mobility. A warrior cannot say the same thing.
It should get nerfed like abomb limb.
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That’s because spear went from arcane/magical damage to physical damage in DF.
The same reason why MW AOE magic immunity no longer lets you move out of it.
Wars and rogues have similarly great toolkits - Wars have a ranged stun, also have disarm, evasion isn’t cc (wars still have parry and are getting ignore pain back if we’re talking defensives), and can fear.
It’s missing the point, which is that Spear doesn’t have any counterplay outside of a few select classes or giga timed mobility spells.
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This would be a great argument…solid argument if Arms didn’t crank insane damage without CDs and have constant uptime on targets with charge,charge,leap on such low CDs. Spear keeping someone in place for a solid 10 seconds is extremely unnecessary for Warriors to do damage.
So yea you get all the defensives of a class right with just spear and your normal crushing Mortal Strikes plus Sharpen. What then? After a class is able to escape your spear they have zero defensives left if they traded for spear. Warrior just keeps charging at the target with unpeelable damage.
I don’t think anyone is saying Spear damage or the buff it gets should get nerfed (maybe it needs tuning I don’t really know). No the obnoxious multi root/pull with zero counterplay to leave spear is the part that bugs most people.
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Isn’t that like pretty much any normal counterplay?
Disarm
Stun
Fear
Poly
Gateway (or is it portal? Can’t remember which)
Psychic Horror
Psychic Scream
Kidney
Asral Shift
Ethereal Form
Turtle
etc
etc
So the only defensive a Hunter has, being forced to press it because there is no possible way to escape a Spear for the Hunter is logical? So what will a Hunter do after they Turtle within the first 15 seconds of the match due to spear? Die? lol
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