ah yes more gaslighting. I saw a thread get posted a couple weeks ago of someone asking if any shaman mains actually ever faced against a shaman in pvp in classic sod, let alone as a paladin, and only one replied that they did, and he agreed that shamans are immensely busted. when i see one shaman show proof that they grinded as an alliance alt in pvp (especially as a paladin) ill take your argument more seriously, because otherwise, you have no flapping clue what you are talking about, you do not.
Idk I’m gonna need hella stuns to kill people once they take all my burst away. How am k going to kill hunters with 50% dodge or rogues with evasion. Cant be using lava burst once they take all that damage. I’ll need a good stun to counter them.
Tldr: Im bad at thinking proactively.
you wont need the stuns because you can still kite, instantly heal your health with no fear of interupts, support your team that actually can stun, drop spell negating totems, give party windfury, my gosh you people are insane, you just want everything
Well hold on, we won’t have windfury …. Because paladins don’t have it… so shamans can’t have it either.
Remember…
have you not played this game before? Paladins get seal of martyrdom/command which is their version of that and not to mention, vastly weaker then windfury. starting to suspect you bought your account with making a retort this disingenuous
Here I was expecting deep analysis and some sort of quantifiable information. I really should know better by now.
lower damage output, can be spam purged, requires rune or talent point investment, 30 second duration, using judgement removes it forcing a GCD to reapply, just a few examples i can think of right there that destroys your flaccid horde argument
Shamans are not that broken lol, elemental shamans are more broken than enhanced shamans. Stop complaining about shamans. With all your complaints you are just trying to nerf our class down to nothing and to being useless. How about you just learn how to play your class better? As a shaman, as soon as I get CCed I die, nothing I can do, rogues eat me alive, and casters can just kite even with totems. Fear and silence shuts down shamans for the most part. We aren’t nearly as broken as rogues, shadow priests, pallies, and boomies. Leave shamans alone, in fact, give us a cc since other classes get them.
gaslighter shaman main no suprise. go play against one as alliance first before u can say this.
if anyone gets CCd they will die lol thats far from exclusive to any class.
show me your alliance pvp character then.
ok you didnt play against one, you have no position to argue your class doesnt need a nerf, just shameless gaslighting + self promotion
True they shouldn’t have seals.
Because shamans don’t have seals.
Of course they are weaker they don’t prevent you from still benefiting from wild strikes while a seal is up.
I’m starting to think you may realize your logic is idiotic.
Ad hominem??? Yeah you lost buddy.
classic losing mans argument, you are trying to muddy the conversation. cant let the alliance factions class be on equal footing? Lol. Anything paladins have, shamans have a version of it but far superior. and yes that does also include HoJ because ur class one shots people which is the ultimate stun/CC in the game. Divine shield is not as good as you crybabies think it is, now, if it was a 1 min CD then i would agree. but for a class to only be useful every 5 minutes is bad design, stop being disingenous.
Shamans Do have seals, but instead they are far superior versions called Imbues.
Shamans do have blessings, but they come as far super versions called totems.
Shamans do have Seal of command, but it comes in the form of the far superior Windfury.
Shamans do have heals, and i dont even need to get into depth on how far superior those are to paladins because its pretty obivous.
Shamans get Ghost wolf (paladins get nothing like this)
Shamans Get Lavaburst, chain,lightning, Lightning bolt, 3 shocks that all have very aggressive affects (paladins get nothing like any of this, unless you are moronic to count holy shock… a weak attack that does less then half the damage of shamans lv 4 spell earthshock which requires 31 talent points, several runes, to make it only half as useful, and exorcism which to even be able to cast requires a rune to use it, and 2 other runes to make it semi viable.)
Not one thing a paladin wins, side by side. Oh but i guess they wear plate. And even then, they mostly have to downclass their armor as alot of good dps armor is leather.
Shamans get Shamanistic fury or whatever its called to give them infinite mana. (Paladins get nothing like this. that seal of martyrdom mana buff was taken away because of a “Bug”)
Shamans get retribution aura, but far superior version called lightning shield which becomes even more gross because of rolling thunder.
Im gonna make this list go endlessly.
Shamans also get strikes. Lava lash, Stormstrike which are are undeniably better then lolsader strike and divine meme. Practically every ability a shaman gets has some sort of aggressive OP affect attached to the damage it does. Paladins get nothing like that on any of their attacks. Not to mention, if they cast judgement, a very weak attack, requires them to have to reapply a seal wasting a useful GCD.
Almost 2 months later and shamans are even more busted
thats like saying paladins dont need bubble or instant full health because shamans don’t have it.
Very true, that persons logic is illogical. I copy pasted it 5 times and they still don’t get it.
sorry but as soon as you say that idiotic buzzword i just tune out anything you say as nonsense.
youre wrong btw .
shaman need a nerf. its plain and simple. the mana change w paladin was a bandaid and bad game design. giving everyone infinite mana ruins raiding. class balance and specifically horde v alliance balancing has never been more one sided than in sod thanks to shaman overpower.
yawn .
have you even tried the current meta on your lvl 34 rogue?
i mean really.