NERF Shadow Meld

Can we make Escape Artist to actually be able to escape anything? I swear the most worthless racial ever.

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i understand that for pve it isn’t any good now. but for a long long time it was broken in pvp to the point where most people who did rated were not just alliance, but human specifically, because of emfh. something had to be done.

I still want something I can use in pve. I don’t care that it was nerfed, only that I don’t have a decent active racial for pve anymore. lol

the passives are pretty nice for humans though aren’t they? like 2% secondary stats or something? seems pretty strong! plus the rep bonus is the only truly op of all of the racials. :frowning:

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I want it nerfed too, but just so that my friends will stop playing NE… they don’t want to, one wants to change his druid so badly… yet Shadow Meld has him in a strangle hold.

Not everyone can be the model gamer I myself am (mostly joking) and ignore racials and other ā€œnecessitiesā€ that only factors in for world first

Those of weaker will need to be saved the only way I know how; destroying their bond.

You have a point, there. My belf priest does feel weaker when I am solo questing that my human does.

Shadowmeld is such an iconic racial, I really don’t want it nerfed. And actually I think SM is such a niche racial that nerfing it would make it useless. Although I wouldn’t mind if racials - all of them - were deactivated in mythic+, this way is fair for everyone.

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I don’t understand why people get so mad about racials in pve. PvP i can understand I guess but even still, everyone worrying about racials so much is just going to end in everyone having watered-down, boring racials on everyone.

I think it’s fun when things like racials can shine in certain situations. I guess if it’s constantly outperforming other racials in all or most situations a nerf is in order, but overall I feel this just causes boring homogenization in the long run.

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why would racials somehow magically matter more in pvp than they do in pve? 0.o

Everyone is rolling the mdi for this racial, its good in one form of content. I tell you what i’ll give you SM for berzerking any day of the week.

Personally I don’t think they do. I was more just mentioning I could see why people would complain more at having to go up against a different racial in a pvp situation where in a pve situation someone else’s racial doesn’t actually effect how you play at all.

I think people overdo the complaining about racials for pvp too.

people in pve don’t seem to think of it as a group activity. them vs the boss. they seem to view it as them against each person in their raid, and against each person in everyone else’s raid. so racial imbalances make them just as much if not more angry than pvp players for whatever reason. lol

High End players have no faction loyalty, it means nothing to them.

They don’t play for the faction, they play for the racials. If Alliance had racials good for raiding, Method would still be there.

Faction Loyalty is really a casual player concept.

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Yeah. I know it’s nothing new, but it still makes me sad that people get competitive as they do about it. Obviously just my opinion but to me I feel like people taking the ā€œcompetitionā€ so seriously ends up restraining blizz from adding more fun or quirky type abilities and situations since it’s harder to keep them balanced/fair

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personally i think racials should be mostly fun things like a rep bonus or under water breathing. instead of something to mix/max. i’d also be okay if they made it so you couldn’t use any racials in pvp or pve like arena or raids.

How about take away orc racials wile your at it. I mean orcs are 20% of all players in rated pvp over 1800. They in the top spot. I wonder why that is?

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I have mixed feelings about it. I like the feeling of getting different advantages depending on your choices but at the same time I don’t like how some people may feel ā€œforcedā€ into choice depending on what is best, or even what is perceived as best.

Though yeah I do wish they focus more on the fun side of racials. I kinda hope they go back to a few of the older races and add or buff some of the ā€œfor funā€ ones. Darkspears’ 30 more xp from beast is all we have and is hardly an exciting ā€œtoyā€ haha.

But I like playing hide n’ seek with the night elves :frowning:

normal dwarves used to have a treasure finding racial. i was so… irritated… when it was removed. and we got some bs archaeology racial instead. i haven’t even tried to level that profession on any toons. so i went from a fun one to a totally useless one, so i feel you. lol

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Let me get this straight: Horde racials were so overpowered for literally a decade, causing a faction imbalance as a vast majority of raiders shifted toward Horde. A fact that Blizzard didn’t address until it was beyond too late, and which Blizzard admits they have no answer to now.

But yeah, please tell us more about your butthurt.

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