brain dead ret pally’s doing 2 mill damage while untouchable is super fun…
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did u forget to hit ams
I have an ongoing spreadsheet of Dk’s that have ret pally mogs
90% chance you forgot to AMS
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This is the same person complaining about MM hunters. I think they just hate every class at this point. Soon they’ll be asking for disc priest ultimate pen nerfs and FoF nerfs.
it’s sad cuz it’s true
Uh, there’s a lot of adjustments that could be made to retribution but their damage profile is no longer such that they’re regularly encouraged to offensively divine shield.
Disappears in like two globals and Ret trashes DK.
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Does holystrike even care about AMS?
I thought holystrike was put in place so rets didn’t have to think?
well it’s supposed to be 0 dmg done and received during bubble, no idea why this was changed to ruin the game
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AMS is a joke now. It gets taken down almost immediately.
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Unholy is better than frost since they can at least do considerable damage while kiting, but DK really is not in a great spot for queueing BGs without a healer.
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Unnoly and Frost aren’t.
Nobody takes tanks seriously.
/winky face
No, it was never that. Old version was 50% damage done.
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Yes. And, it was more of an issue when a ret paladin could just pop bubble and instagib three people. That really isn’t happening now.
Bubble is definitely annoying to deal with for a few classes, but what annoys me more about paladin when fighting them is that they are a ranged class now (which removes a lot of the outplay against offensive bubble). But, every class should have something that annoys other people.
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If you really want to annoy a ret paladin these days, play an arcane mage.
Ugh, had an extended 1v1 against a good one on my fury warrior a few days ago. That’s enough of that for me. Just another thing that is “balanced for arena.”
the fact you think MM hunters are fine in bgs speaks volumes…
I’m sorry, but I believe he is correct. It was treated like Blessing of Protection (no physical damage) but also gave you immunity to all damage and in turn you did no damage through divine protection.
Then, for some reason, divine protection was turned into damage mitigation (wall) and divine shield then kinda just evolved from there.
You can even see the “old version” of it in classic. Funny, Ice Block has been relatively the same (even the same CD and no damage through it) since classic.
https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Divine_Shield
But, on-topic, bubble damage is stupid. It should amp up personal healing or greatly reduce the cost of healing (when used on self) and still make you immune. Damage profiles are insane right now.
I checked logs ret pally did 2.6 mil damage inside bubble… how can anyone think thats good gameplay and especially now they are a ranged class throwing 100=150k hammers at you while you try and kite away.
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Blizzard balances around arena with the assumption that you have a healer with you. Of course, that is often not the case in BGs. So, some times you end up with fights that you literally have no counterplay for.
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I think sniper shot needs adjustment for sure but MM hunters die immediately. I’ve never been out damaged by a hunter, especially a MM hunter in a BG. We all have something about the game we hate though.
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