The entire fight is very hard but the final phase is just ridiculous. Basically impossible on PUG without absurdly over-gearing the content. It is extremely punishing to a group with even a single individual underperforming. I’ve wiped over 30 times trying to PUG this. Stop making normal mode feel like mythic.
you can get to phase three? all the pugs on razs I’ve been I see about three to four people die to the meme beam or don’t interrupt the air bursts and people fold after the trash intermission.
that’s just the pug life though.
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Or invite better people.
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The fight is really cool and does not need to be changed at all.
Get a group of good players that are not incapable of following instructions, setup the strategy right and execute it.
If you want the easy mode kill without worrying about the player’s ability, just wait a few more weeks and you can do LFR.
Or be a sociable person, join a guild and kill it.
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I finally found a group that could kill her… After over 30 wipes. Sorry I still think she is way over-tuned for normal difficulty.
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nah, the boss is fine for normal. It’s the end boss, it’s not supposed to be free.
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Super fun fight on normal
It goes nuts on higher difficulties
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Maybe your skill ceiling is on LFR. That is fine.
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Lolno.
Also untrue.
Three strikes, and you’re out!
If you think Normal Raszageth feels like Mythic raiding, then raiding is not for you. Not even LFR. Way too “punishing” with the underperformers there.
Bunch of elitists on this forum out of touch with reality. Not surprised.
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Not really. It is simple, if you have people underperforming in the group, it is the leader’s responsibility to replace them.
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This is like asking to win the lottery for pugs…
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I think it is better being called an elitist by a whining player than crying on forums for participation trophy.
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Maybe if you blindly invite anyone that queues up. “Stand here” and “don’t get hit by X” in like 3-4 variations isn’t hard.
LOL If you think normal Raz is “mythic” standards
This is a 10 minute fight full of instant kill mechanics. Normal difficulty should be PUGable. You replace the underperformers with other “underperformers”. It is a miracle when my groups even exit phase 1 as nearly always people die to beam. I ain’t the only one finding this fight difficult to PUG:
https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/zr7jv2/after_82_wipes_i_gotta_ask_has_anyone_actually/
It requires too much skill from players on normal difficulty to be reasonable. Even having 1-2 DPS die means a wipe due to DPS checks.
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I agree. It is a great fight, people should be able to read and follow instructions and now exactly what to do, after all, the whole boss description is available in the adventure guide, they just need to press SHIFT + J and read it.
Not really how it works, you replace someone that keeps failing mechanics with someone else. If that person fails also, you replace that that again until you find it.
Don’t talk to me like I don’t know what pugs are, I did AoTC Xavius on Legion with Pug.
If you wait for people who have enough brain cells to do a few mechanics then you wait 3 hours in que to get enough people.
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There are several hundred thousand parses on normal Raszageth. It’s extermely PUGable.
That a raid leading skill issue, lol. Stop blindly inviting people.
Then your groups literally have the lowest of the low if they can’t dodge a beam with a three second windup.
Yeah, it’s the end boss. You should have to play reasonably well to kill it, if you want a free win wait for LFR.
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