I missed the part where Dark Souls was World of Warcraft.
And where my HUNTER… who got it in Legion wouldn’t be able to make it now?
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You missed the point that not everything has to accessible to all kinds of players. This is purely a challenge on your own skill and so many of you are getting pissed bc you cant cope with the fact that you are either not good enough or dont wanna practice and instead just complain.
I did it on my boomie with typhoon bugging every other use, not cheesing gear, not following shtty wowhead guides and having patience to learn patterns. You should do the same
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most people couldn’t beat the tower til overgeared in legion and if subbed for this idk kind of dumb considering you knew it was going to be hard and it can be done i guess i see people in here saying it can. you just want to beat everyone the day it comes out then unsub cause i’m bored again or what? and it don’t matter what was on the ptr that ain’t live so.
Oh, you did it on one of the most busted specs in the game? Surely, you must be incredibly skilled.
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You saying baseline boomie is busted is enough for me to know how clueless you are and no one should take your opinion seriously. Git gud 
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You first.
It’s not a true ultimatum if Blizzard doesn’t even know or care about I said.
This is me realizing that Blizzard literally can’t do anything right, and me drawing the line about not continuing to play the game because the last thing I cared about in 9.1.5 is busted.
It doesn’t matter whether I as a single player “get what I want”. This is bad for the Mage Tower fans, and bad for WoW’s reputation in the long run.
I don’t trust them to get anything right in 9.2, including raiding and Torghast.
completed the old one, tried the new one. Do I unsub now or wait?
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its quite ridiculous. you shouldnt have to farm old gear just to complete these challenges. my DH dies in 20 seconds no matter what i do in the xylem challenge due to the horrible nerf to the leech
Wait until you get bopped out as a Survival Hunter and Harpoon’s on CD.
You have very few, you know. Half seconds to get back in the bubble. And die. 
If you interrupted Xylen before phase and it’s on CD? GG.
So, I tried each one with classes I succeeded on. I failed. Significantly more of a PITA.
I guess they wanted some time played metrics for the day, nerfs incoming soon so they can get everyone to log back in for this sh*t show.
So i think up to like 28-29 challenges done… Not completed, but attempted. I am a Massive altoholic, so ive been playing around all day on the ones i really want to do. But man, im almost tempted to just give up on the Majority of them. Mind you i have about 20 or so completed from legion. And mind you they literally don’t even compare. I just got into Highlord Krull for the first time earlier, for about 2 and a half hours on my warrior.
And im starting to think it was a Mistake. If Velen doesnt die in literally one hit from Adds, you do. It’s completely insane on how much damage goes out in that fight. Ive tried it on my Warebear too, and man it still a kick in the teeth but it isn’t as bad, as the Warrior on Kruul. also Pallies get it soso. The self healing is awesome. But still painful. Havent attempted it on the Monk or DH yet for Kruul…
As for Xylem… this fight. This fight is just pure Cancer in the sense of everything. My warrior, which ive mained for 17 years is getting two to three shot by comet storm before i can even break out of the Icicles. This fight is extremely broken. DH was a little better with Leech and stuff, but DKs, and Rogues i wouldn’t even bother with it IMO.
Feltotem is just a poop show if you attempt it as a Disc priest. Warlock is a little better, but still hurts. My Monk got pretty far, probably the most doable, though it is hard as hell still. also the hunters have it a little better if you bang your head.
Twins… Twins is just odd… Shadow Priest didn’t seem to bad, until i got nuked at the end for Killing the brother first. I got destroyed with that extra 500% damage increase from 100. whooooo! Boomkin was the same, but a little easier. Probably the easiest of the Mage, Priest, and Boomie, think hunter as well? Haven’t tried it yet.
Agatha isn’t really all that bad on Most of the classes. I made it to like 30ish or so % on my Warrior, DK, and Feral… I haven’t tried shaman, mage and rogue yet. But this fight might be the most doable if you pay attention. It’s still kick in the teeth mind you.
As for Sygrim (i forgot her name. the Halls of Valor fights) Rogue didnt seem to bad, for Assass, Ret was ok, hurts more then normal, and Warlock is fixed unlike old mage tower where stuff sometimes wouldnt spawn, so you just get wrecked. I did anyways…
Also this was just all from Personal Experience today. Im sure i could get some if i really banged my head at them. But im honestly starting to think it might not be worth the stress and headache, until properly tuned. But you all know Blizz is a Paid Beta/PTR. As for for those who will say get good, try harder, or whatever negative comment you have. Sorry, Im not currently apart of the 5% of the entire player base that will probably complete it in this two weeks. If more do, more power to you, and congrats to everyone who has gotten them done this time around!
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I’ve played since the Vanilla to BC transition era and only missed some time on my sub while deployed to Iraq and Afghanistan (15 months and a year respectively) and this is it…this is finally the thing. I made two trial accounts for my daughter and I “somewhere else” last night and am not renewing…maybe not even if they fix this. Depressing on a level I can’t describe properly. I was really looking forward to this and the stealth nerf that makes literally all of my main characters impossible in the specs I play is just too much. Bye I guess.
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A lot of people are feeling this lately in Warcraft. It honestly stuns me that developers still “don’t get it”.
I hope that your somewhere else is a much, much happier/healthier place for you.
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Some people, sure. But not all.
The simple truth is, the damage and health of the Mage Tower bosses/adds is much higher than it was on PTR.
The original Mage Tower was tuned for Tomb of Sargeras gear with legendaries. So considering we have access to zero borrowed power, these TW’ing challenges should be tuned slightly easier than Tomb of Sargeras.
Not harder than they were during Nighthold when it first released.
That’s the crux of the issue. Difficult content is fine. Challenging content is good. But this is tuned too high for something we will only be able to attempt a couple weeks out of the year. I’m not saying that a blanket 50% nerf needs to happen but some tweaks are definitely needed for most of these challenges. Whether thats slightly less damage from XYZ or slightly less health on ABC, or a mix of both for X and A.
But, considering Blizzard gave players less than a day to test these on the PTR. It was obvious it wasn’t going to be tuned right, doubly so since Blizzard has a notoriously bad habit of disregarding 99% of the feedback given during PTR’s. The fact they stealth buffed the MT challenges this much compared to PTR is just, well, downright insulting to the people who dedicated their time to testing the PTR in the first place.
It’s downright disrespectful to all players.
Edit. For anyone attempting Kruul. I recommend running Nighthold to the second boss for its cheat death tank trinket. LFR, Normal, Heroic and Mythic. That’s 4 chances to get the trinket if RNG isn’t in your favor. It helps immensely in P2 when you actually fight Kruul, just have to be careful since you do not want it to proc during P1 against the Inquisitor.
Edit 2:
I’m 36/36 from Legion too. Did several during Nighthold, most during Tomb, and the rest on my neglected alts I never play during Antorus. The current iteration of the Timewalking Mage Tower is tuned harder than Nighthold.
Which is why so many people are complaining. The original rewards aren’t tied to these TW challenges. It’s just a recolor of of the Mythic ToS gear. The tuning shouldn’t be this outrageous, for a recolor of a set that was already an updated recolor, given how Legion TW will literally be active for only a couple weeks out of the year. It’s not cool.
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Not having tried it yet gives you no seat at the table. Your old credentials don’t work here.
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Keep getting the Arms one down to 20%ish before I run out of room. Overall the Arms isn’t hard it’s just the DPS check that I keep getting probably due to how my PvP stats are setup.
This is ridiculous. Shadow tuning after a PTR with no notice? And I can’t use BFA items, Legion legendaries and can’t even use Convoke?
I don’t even know what to say or how you have a build in the PTR and then change it out of nowhere on live. I know what to say, but it’s early morning as to start it with negativity.
I want that bear, but I’ll wait a bit and see, then.
It’s very very clearly tuned for the people who do mythic raiding. And even they are saying it’s much much harder now on live than it was on the ptr and on ptr it was already fairly challenging
It’s currently ‘play perfect or loose, and even if you play perfect you also need perfect rng and have to pray the mechanics actually work correctly’
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I think instead of making it easier they should make it available more frequently and have it scale better with gear.
It’s fine if you cant do it on the very first day. It’s actually a good thing to have a challenge to work on over some time.
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