Heirlooms with enchants most definitely is partially twink gear, yes. Most of these people also enchant other items that are non-heirloom, but some heirlooms in certain brackets are a problem and most definitely when enchanted. Not every bracket though, most essentially in lower level brackets.
Indeed, as documented within this recent SS.
10-19 Xpon, 2min+ left on timer. ![:neutral_face:](https://d38bqls1q93fod.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/neutral_face.png?v=6" ":neutral_face:")
https://imgur.com/78vL8fc
Not much we can do about forcing players to somewhat “gear up” at this point.
These situations will continue to happen, players are getting smarter/clever everyday.
The new meta, is much more toxic.
Hopefully Blizzard looks into more precise solutions.
See, my problem that comes from this is that I’m somehow ‘stubborn’ to be in this gear while I’m doing all the content I’m supposed to do that’s completely level appropriate. I’ve met plenty of ‘twinked’ characters that were useless in terms of gaining a victory in the battleground, it’s not something that just occurs with someone that’s not in the best of gear as it happens from both sides.
You’re stubborn to come to the forums to complain about it. You can do what you want as it’s your game time, but don’t expect others to not be well equipped. I spent no time and very little gold on the gear I have.
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Except in the case of not having gear, in quite a few cases it’s not on the fault of the player but on Blizzard for not giving them apparently the gear required to be up to snuff with the rest of the people in those level brackets.
So instead you want to blame others. Sounds legit.
This is not so much the case anymore, now that quest items can warforge at all levels.
Personally I think leveling to 120, earning heirlooms, enchanting them, and in some cases having to move them to another character if you’ve upgraded them to add enchants; or having to turn off xp completely to farm out a bunch of gear and still need gold for enchants to not really be a solution to the problem here.
No, that’s what you’re doing. Blaming me for having less gear than you.
Except pre-19 there’s no quests that give certain slots, as has already been demonstrated; and again xp-off twinks would still have a larger advantage in because they can complete more zones and quests.
How so? I have no greater access to quests or zones than anyone else at my level…other people just don’t want to go to those places and do those things, and that’s fine; I just don’t want to be punished for doing something others choose not to when it’s an intended part of the game.
Edit: I also don’t play 19s, so I don’t know anything about gearing for that bracket beyond heirlooms.
so true XD
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Because you can do more of them to get the RNG gear from them, and you don’t have to pick and choose what specific zones for your level range you can just do them all.
Again, I fail to see how anyone else is restricted from doing the same…unless the restriction is self-imposed by the player because they simply want to focus on some other aspect of the game that is more fun to them.
No. I’m saying there are more problems to battlegrounds than just twinks.
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Man I wish I took screenshots back when my 39s were a thing. Every time someone complained I inspected them it was the same. whites/old greens and nothing current because all their levels had been carried through BGs.
Or people who had maybe 4 looms and nothing else. I even had a guy snap back that he would make sure his lvl 7 gloves were blue lvl 7s next time to be ‘better’ not understanding the lvl was what mattered not the color. Getting angrier when I explained that also.
It’s not a red haring it is and was a very common problem. You didn’t see the complaint before because WE COULD STILL BG.
It was not the only problem posed by exp gain from BGs as well.
Just a few being people sitting ‘afking’ not truly being afk but sitting only to gain exp. Sitting as a ghost not ressing.
All caps abuse to healers because they could not be kept up in poor gear. Leaving halfway through the BG because either ‘rage quitting’ or ‘id rather quest now bleh’ because if a BG does not go well half way through it’s not worth trying. Even though games are won on a turn around most the time.
Giving up halfway through a BG and sitting in starting areas.
Not fighting on objectives because ‘I always lose so I’m just going to farm exp from HKs lol’
My list can get longer.
And if you are saying that those people are wrong for having no gear, why be against these simple changes?
If you say blizz’s end goal is to make the bracket equal to everyone and that is what you want. You say you are happy they removed twinks from lack of balance and wanting to equalize because they are the top % then you need to remove the bottom % as well. If you don’t want your teams dragged up then they should not be dragged down either.
Of course the fun of pvp is making yourself better and helping the team win so I don’t see the point in the removal of twinks in the first place. I’m just pointing out the hypocrisy now.
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Most 19 twink gear was half heirlooms, maybe engi goggles, and random low level gear. Anyone I inspected anyway.
Because they’d have to turn off xp to do so, or spend higher amounts of gold upon leveling gear instead of relying on what is given to them by the game itself during leveling. I.E. Going outside of the norm to gain further gear to be more geared than the average.
Sure, but twinks are a very large problem that exaggerates the problems to an extreme due to gear.
And people with missing gear were the other extreme… one is gone (but not really) and the other is still there.
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