Actually you have, on top of name calling and telling me I should not be queueing and that I’m a hinderance to any team I join in my gear. Just a heads up, did another random dungeon; got Blackfathom Deeps. No helms/shoulders there either, but I got 3 pieces of loot and a quest upgrade.
That all sounds pretty condescending to me, but at least I can say, between you and Juga. Juga was much worse.
No, you are trying to tell them to play the game the same way you do. If someone wants to use multiple ways to level their character, why does it matter to you?
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It matters to lasagna because these people play with other people. it’s one thing to suck, but dont go and point fingers at other players who want to perfect their characters because you dont want to take the same time to do so.
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So disagreeing, stating a suspicion due to what is honestly something unreasonable. Stating they are purposely inhibiting themselves. Laughing at something laughable.
Stating they have a choice.
None of this is the name calling. Labeling. Rude. Bunching up saying ‘all this group’ They have been doing.
Don’t see you defending me.
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Well yes… we are playing a mmo after all, but people need to keep in mind, yes… they are progressing their characters via gear. But there is a very high chance they are going to run into people who are progressing their characters via levels and will most likely go through the gear process themselves later down the track.
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what’s with the dumb fallacy that twinks are people who don’t have any skill. Twinking is just another way to experience pvp removed from the stupid gear grind. the BFA grind and the gear grind in general since WoD is garbage. All you chase is ilvls instead of looking for unique loot.
Much of the old gear in old content has unique affixes and effects that make gearing up at that level fun. It’s also why twinks are so effective because old gear has some op effects. Funnily enough they already nerfed most of the op twink gear. While its still good, its no where as good as it was when BFA launched.
Yet no one seems to take that into account. Those of you still complaining twinks are too op must literally not be wearing any damn gear since Heirlooms are pretty much just as good as most of the bis gear for twinks beyond proc effects. Yes enchants are also pretty strong, but i just enchanted my guy out with, while not the absolute best enchants, still good compared to no enchants. It costed me 2000 gold. you can make 2k in like an hour of playing at cap. You can make like 10-20k gold farming old raids and dungeons and just vendoring all the gear you collect.
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People go the path of least resistance, so if heirlooms were pretty much the same as twink gear with full enchants it’d be a lot more rare to see. That is not the case for one, and two because twinks revert everything they say about competition when they have to face other twinks exclusively and can’t just kill players they outgear anymore. See people turning on xp and leaving bgs before gaining xp to remain at a twink level and more.
You said nothing of significance in your post right there. your response is just word salad. Enchanted heirlooms are pretty much just as good as twink gear. Again, its weapons and trinkets with crazy damage proc effects that are destroying non twinked players along with certain classes have crazy damage.
Do you even know what twink gear is probably killing you? have you even done any ounce of research in seeing what twinks are doing to be so OP?
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Xp-off twinks are not the only twinks, Kazul. Just a tip, enchanted heirlooms counts as twinking with how big of an advantage it gives over regular levelers like myself.
no bulshiite. ANYONE can grab heirlooms and enchant them. THAT IS NOT TWINKING. I can find +all stats, landslide, crusader etc on the AH on my server right now for 100-500g. That is NOTHING.
How bad, how incredibly deficient do you have to be, to think heirlooms are twink gear?
Holy Hell. I’m done. you guys can have your carebear game. I’m going to classic.
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I know of a couple of procs you speak of IE Elemental Force, but this wasn’t always the case, like when twinks were allowed back into the normal BG queues.
In legion it was items like this(was 80 ilvl then) that twinks were using that blew my mind.
And this(ilvl 60 at the time)
Also this(ilvl 70)
Seeing these items on a character in the 10-19 bracket and trying to work out why they had so much more HP than my rogue did is probably the only time I had issues with the whole thing.
Now I know its the past and pvp templates scaled with ilvl and what not. But I do prefer how twinks work now and before legion.
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lol ![:joy:](https://d38bqls1q93fod.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/joy.png?v=6" ":joy:")
If the average player can’t scrounge up 1000g then I just don’t know what to say
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Let me ask you something. Do you think someone wearing heirlooms enchanted is considered twinking?
Nope, just someone making an alt. I’ve made many alts, with and without heirlooms.
Okay and that’s what we deal with from Hush so forgive me for not being a saint to them. If you’re gonna do a bg with missing gear, don’t complain about people who do gear appropriately.
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Honestly until recent events, this is the first time I’ve ever heard about this being complained about on the forums, not the twink thing, the missing gear thing.
Well that would be why twinks really blow through teams like butter.
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That’s because it’s only complained about here, in response to twink complaints.
It’s a weird argument.
EDIT: It’s also a relatively recent complaint, I think it started being made around a week ago-ish.
Oh well, the twink threads on GD have almost come to a halt so won’t be long before the corpse camping threads come back.
So the argument about twinks is because they have great gear and do insane damage. So ofc the opposite would be true. It’s hypocritical to say twinks are OP and then say it’s fine to actually be missing gear in spots.
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