Nerf ele shamans

[Dabdaddy-dawnbringer]

@Meadamemnon-tichondrius

Ignore pain and Impending Victory, all better heals because they are instant.

Ignore pain breaks from one lava burst, nice try

@Sucio-khaz-modan

Ignore that warrior all he does is complain. He goes to class forums and complains too

Denum hunter bros

[Meadamemnon-tichondrius (Meadamemnon)]

@Dabdaddy-dawnbringer

Ignore pain breaks from one lava burst, nice try

Casting healing surge can be interrupted and heals for as much as ignore pain prevents… Nice try though.

[Kennie-malganis]

@Meadamemnon-tichondrius

Casting healing surge

Throwing the game.

[Dabdaddy-dawnbringer]

@Meadamemnon-tichondrius

Parry, Rally, Stormbolt, Intimidating Shout, Spell Reflection, War Banner… All better than tremor, AS, static field, Stoneskin (no one spec’s into this).

You are WRONG. Shamans toolkit literally counters melee hard. Ghost wolf dmg reduct+ heal, grounding for escape and earthgrab as well. Tremor and stoneskin are powerful cooldowns that dont give you a dmg delt reduction while under it and static field you can drag people FARTHER away from you or to drag people out or behind of pillars

[Dabdaddy-dawnbringer]

@Meadamemnon-tichondrius

Casting healing surge can be interrupted and heals for as much as ignore pain prevents… Nice try though

Skill issue

[Meadamemnon-tichondrius (Meadamemnon)]

You actually have no idea what you are talking about. Shamans are built to counter casters and get countered by melee.

@Dabdaddy-dawnbringer

Ghost wolf dmg reduct+ heal

Can’t do damage during GW so can’t counter pressure, delaying the inevitable. See ignore pain and Impending Victory which allows you to instant cast and apply pressure at the same time.

@Dabdaddy-dawnbringer

Tremor and stoneskin are powerful cooldowns that dont give you a dmg delt reduction while under it

Stoneskin is absolutely garbage no one runs it. It only effects physical damage which basically only effects war and ENH. Tremor is only good against 3 classes so against the other 9?!?! Useless. Meanwhile Parry exists.

@Dabdaddy-dawnbringer

static field you can drag people FARTHER away from you or to drag people out or behind of pillars

You have spear that requires a DCD to be used while SFT can be killed with 1 global. Try killing the totem.

[Rackelhardt-tichondrius]

@Dabdaddy-dawnbringer

Why are you so obviously lying? Every shaman says this when they have 40000999 defensives MORE than arms warrior. Tremor, stoneskin, capacitor, electrical field, astral, SELF HEAL, and 60k dps to force dps off you

L M A O

What Planet are you from

You know what a Defensive is right?
Ele has exactly ONE(!) Deff (40%) and it’s on 2 min. CD (1 1/2 Minute with Talent).
After that we have NOTHING.

Stoneskin gives 10% against physical dmg (also almost no one skills it).

The rest you name is Utility and not Deff. Or shall i start count Warri Leap as Deff too??

And the Heal is a bad joke for Eles, its not even worth the GCD let alone the cast time. Thats why no Ele skills any heal talents, because we just never heal in Arena. Healing as Hybrid Class is the most stupid and timewasting thing you can do in times of Dampening and every Melee having MS.

Thats also why you don’t see ANY Hybrid DD Comp in 2s because the whole logic behind Hybrids is that they have no deff “BeCaUsE tHeY hAvE hEaL”, but heal is the worst deff of them all right now. Even Warris have more Heal after a match than me with my crappy double Earthshield.

I would gladly give away ALL my useless heal for a decent Deff.

So stop say that Ele has a lot of Deff. You only show that you have absolutely no idea about the class and have never played a hybrid and certainly not Ele.

P.S.
Also i doubt you have ever seen 60k dps on the rating you play.
You just copy/paste what others write in this forum.

[Meadamemnon-tichondrius (Meadamemnon)]

Yeah it definitely does sound like a skill issue if you as a warrior can’t kill a shaman.

Pressing ignore pain takes a lot of skill apparently…

[Rackelhardt-tichondrius]

@Dabdaddy-dawnbringer

You are WRONG. Shamans toolkit literally counters melee hard. Ghost wolf dmg reduct+ heal, grounding for escape and earthgrab as well. Tremor and stoneskin are powerful cooldowns that dont give you a dmg delt reduction while under it and static field you can drag people FARTHER away from you or to drag people out or behind of pillars

I like how you just named 3 pvp talkents although we have just one free slot beside "Control of Lava"and “Skyfury Totem”.
But yeah, go on proving that you don’t have a clue about the specc either, like the other dude.

[Sifu-bleeding-hollow (Sifu)]

inb4 the ele stans come in making excus–

@Meadamemnon-tichondrius

There’s also the fact that Ele is one of the squishiest targets in game

oh, already happened

[Meadamemnon-tichondrius (Meadamemnon)]

I play ENH and resto not ELE.

[Redlizzy-quelthalas]

the casters not casting definitely seems like a huge problem … but i think in this particular case BOTs seems to be a bigger problem =S

[Meadamemnon-tichondrius (Meadamemnon)]

Both are true. Yet casters can’t cast while melee have 100% uptime.

[Kennie-malganis]

@Meadamemnon-tichondrius

casters can’t cast while melee have 100% uptime

Thankfully they often don’t need to.

[Rackelhardt-tichondrius]

bro, let the thread rot in peace instead of bumping it

[Meadamemnon-tichondrius (Meadamemnon)]

The ones that do, aren’t viable. See AFF lock for instance.

To make casters cast again they need to nerf melee uptime across the board, which they should do. And I play melee.

[Cenfade-sargeras]

Bro you just named an anti fear totem and a kiting tool . Arms is my highest xp and you’re being so unfair here lol

Parry
Ignore Pain
Zerker rage
Piercing howling
Leap
Rally
Impending victory
Intervene to healer to kite

Ignore pain alone is one of the better defensives in the game for what it costs and its cd. Relatively big absorb AND it gives you overpower procs. Its one of the most overloaded buttons in the game

[Dabdaddy-dawnbringer]

@Cenfade-sargeras

Relatively big absorb

40k
K
Like 1/8th of a priest bubble

[Rackelhardt-tichondrius]

All you need to know:

https://www.pvpleaderboard.com/statistics/solo/all/3000#spec
https://www.pvpleaderboard.com/statistics/solo/all/#spec

More like “nerf Assa/Warri”

[Seratox-illidan]

@Meadamemnon-tichondrius

c%sters

Please censor this vile word for future use and please stop spreading anti melee propaganda. Everyone already sees through it.