Nerf DH asap

https: //youtu.be/EIHYO8-qI_4?si=_UDNCQzfpFwzd8Ce

Clearly OP, BM nerf uncalled for 100%.

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Buff MM/DR.

From the comments:

Hunters
Survival: 3.92
Marksman: 8.54
Beastmastery: 7.30

Paladins
Prot: 5.03
Ret: 5.37

Demon Hunters
Havoc: 1.57
Vengeance: 4.66

Rogues
Sub: 2.32
Assa: 6.22
Outlaw: 8.41

Death Knights
Unholy: 7.05
Frost: 9.09
Blood: 16.82

Warlocks
Affliction: 6.10
Destro: 4.74

Monks Mistweaver: 4.66
Windwalker: 3.27

Warriors
Arms: 3.38
Fury: 2.21
Prot: 4.53

Evokers
Devastation: 6.83

Mages
Arcane: 2.96

Shamans
Elemental: 0.52

Priests
Shadow: 5.42
Disc: 9.87

Druids
Feral: 4.17
Guardian: 2.37
Balance: 7.84

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By my professional data analysis, I concur.

Shot bro, the proof is right there.

This is in order from fastest ttk to slowest:

  • Elemental: 0.52
  • Havoc: 1.57
  • Fury: 2.21
  • Sub: 2.32
  • Guardian: 2.37
  • Arcane: 2.96
  • Windwalker: 3.27
  • Arms: 3.38
  • Survival: 3.92
  • Feral: 4.17
  • Prot War: 4.53
  • Mistweaver: 4.66
  • Vengeance: 4.66
  • Destro: 4.74
  • Prot Pal: 5.03
  • Ret: 5.37
  • Shadow: 5.42
  • Affliction: 6.10
  • Assa: 6.22
  • Devastation: 6.83
  • Unholy: 7.05
  • Beastmastery: 7.30
  • Balance: 7.84
  • Outlaw: 8.41
  • Marksman: 8.54
  • Frost DK: 9.09
  • Disc: 9.87
  • Blood: 16.82

Dks dead last. DH clearly out of line, no ramp up. 1 buff away from broken.

MM needs a damage amp cd. I think that’s what’s missing.

Dude spent 5 minutes farming a demon soul beforehand lol

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Demo not even on the list. Buff it! :stuck_out_tongue:

Fake news, typical DH propaganda.

Yeah, a few missing. Not popular enough.

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but bdk burst tho

I think some of these times are misleading. Blood DK for example has “burst” when it matters i.e. a target is low health and the games been going on for a while and then rune of sanguination kicks in and BAM you’re getting hit for 1.2m death strikes+dancing rune weapon hits back to back and die.

Then there’s Guardian who has to farm something up (not even sure what) and then get a full convoke off. Possible and toxic burst from a tank, but not very realistic. Then there’s every War spec which can basically just run in and dumpster you with no wait time.

While this video was just for fun I do think it highlights some issues with different specs that will need addressed at some point.

Thank you for your service.
I’m curious to see the boomy one after work.

I actually think boomy has some of the most insane “practical” burst, but also has the most amount of annoying conditionals (must have 3 dots with 0 dispel protection and also hardcast to get into eclipse and throw down treants before you do any dam)

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I just re-watched Boomy and he pumped like 5 wraths into a target dummy to build resources, then dotted up the kill target (which started the timer), dropped treants, then started bursting. So yeah assuming your target isn’t insta dispelled when eclipse is used most of that will be happening naturally in a game so you can just pop off as soon as it’s pressed.

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The secret to beating boomy for the last two years :frowning:

Psure is damage stacks during berserk, in theory every spec in catform convoke can do that. Pretty boring, if it ain’t bear form not interested.

Instant 0 cd dots, not like you casting soulrot/haunt.

Sub is 2.32 every 30 seconds.

So you’re saying I should report anybody I kill for being afk?

Those 2700 EU BDKs are probably going into 80% damp lol

Bdk is actually a decent tank, godlike toolkit yet killable and moderate damage.

? You need a 3rd one or you’re perma doing ~10% less damage.

For options you have a 0cd casted dot on the astral school, a chance to apply on crits from wrath/Starfire casts, and an instant but 30s cd charge with mushroom or rng mushroom with 0 target control and 2.5 rppm.

Dispeling basically always stops the 3rd dot which prevents waning twilight, which also forces boomy to use 2 of their limited eclipse globals to re-dot which further reduces the amount of surges you’re sending.

It’s actually a huge deal from a healer Pov.