I would much rather Both these go away and Remorseless Winter, Glacial Advance, & Frostscythe carry the AOE so Oblit and Frost Strike can be tuned for good single target.
This just seems like the simplest solution for now. Nerf Cleaving Strikes to 80% and Shattered Frost to 50% so Oblit and Frost Strike can be buffed.
I just want to be able to do literally anything other than BoS.
BoS should be the big AOE option but right now our single target spells cant shine due to them all have a talent that makes them AOE. So easy just nerf the AOE talents and buff the ST so that BoS isn’t best but AOE and ST.
We’ve heard your complaints about the Sindragosa tree and will be increasing Breath of Sindragosas damage and nerfing all other sources of damage to compensate.
I would love cleaving strikes to go away, like give us a dedicated AOE spell that’s actually worth using!!
Unfortunate reality. At this point I just don’t forsee frost getting a rework this expansion anymore. They just leave it to die
Frostscythe? Glacial could use a buff for sure, but frost strike is okay. Oblit needs a non-km bonus like it gets in pvp, too, but other than that, those two abilities are intended to be single target by design.
Chill streak is also great if you pop it at the end of a pillar
As stupid as the joke is, it has a higher chance of happening than anything worth while being done. They went from acknowledging the spec had problems because of BoS, to giving us a not as good but very viable alternative with oblit/Shattering blades, to nerfing everything about that alternative and making BoS the only viable build again.
Im still in disbelief of the stupidity of whoever thought of the changes, and then approved it. They must -really- hate when people would rather play a lesser but good enough build instead of what they decide they want to be the meta.
It was nice while it lasted, I wasn’t even upset I had to dual wield to get the most out of Shattering builds when I overall would have preferred for 2h frost to be the alternative. I was having so much fun with it. So it’s back to unholy for another expansion.
reworks will only be on big patches as well, 11.1 or 11.2.
Not trying to be pessimistic here, but I just don’t see it happening. They haven’t reworked frost since legion, it’s been 8 years. I don’t see a rework happening this expansion. They’ll do the same thing they always do shuffle talents around and ignore the core issues of the spec with proc on proc function RNG
I dont understand blizzards excuse for this being the case either tbh
Its not like they cant afford a single person to sit down and design the class. I posted the same thing in the DH section
You give this spec to some of the top players in the game and they’d be able to redesign it 100x better in a single day.
So whats the blizzards excuse for leaving it so poor? I can only assume its back of hosue “computer says no” type stuff
I cant for the life of me think of a single good reason to leave specs in the dark like this when 90 percent of players are generally on the same page when it comes to making a spec better. If we can do it, some forum lurkers, why cant the company who built the damn game do it?
We arent expecting specs in the dark to be fixed overnight but start throwing changes into the PTUs and at least start workign towards fixing them
It barely requires any effort at all. Ive hosted azerothcore servers (private wow) and i can tell you doing class changes is not rocket science.