Hey Staceysmom really good game a few days ago. You are one tanky dude. I’m pretty sure that match coulda gone either way. Solid play man
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Eventually we have to double BM just to make people cry 
I did that with hogx and we didnt lose a match was fun
Hog never dissapoints. The mans on point
The man plays in an internet cafe in china on a qbasic computer and still beats me
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In my opinion BM’s ease of damage rotation is evened out by how easily it can be killed
Of course the forums have a witch hunt going for BM, they literally act like craven makes us tankier than a DStance ignore pain spamming arms warrior and that cobra shot spam is more broken than ww 1shots
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That’s the thing I don’t get - BM is, in my experience, a dampening spec. You don’t burst anything, you just wear them down with control and consistent chip damage from pets. Literally no team I face is worried about me 1,2, or 5 shotting anything. At least not based on the way they bum rush me.
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Pretty sure I was just in a seething shore with you, I noticed you at a node, it seemed like you were afk, I really didn’t want to be that guy, but I was hoping you weren’t afk, I think you came back last half of the Bg and I was seeking you out the entire time lol. Was a good game.
People complain about cobra shot spam, I wish cobra shot hit like a WW, however, if that was the case then yes I would say there is a problem lol.
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Nah was trying to get a 1v1 with the rogue. He thought he was good. Found out he wasn’t.
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0 dps loss lol. stop with this lie already. just pet ai alone will causes loss.
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Granted I only do random bgs, but I can testify that spamming cobra seems like way more pressure on my targets then using kill command. The more I just use cobra and barbed shot, the more my targets melt.
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Try being BM in blades edge arena, or the one with circular platform with the railing people can run up on. The pets will literally run all the way around it and up the steps and then I won’t be to stun or pet sac bc they are in some crazy spot. Pet AI isn’t all it’s cracked up to be plus the pets don’t even do that insane of dmg anymore. It’s a decent amount but if you’re not keeping up frenzy properly they are gonna just tickle. I’m trying to get rid of all my mastery pieces I got through vault rng for more crit that’s how bad it is in its current form
And not arena but don’t even get me started on the orb battleground temple of Kotmongo or whatever it’s called. You pretty much have to run to the middle and go down the steps bc if you jump in and attack someone from the ends your pets will run completely around to the stairs, go down the steps 1 by 1 and then run over to who is now murdering you bc half your abilities won’t work.
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Melee are all mobile and do full dmg while moving. How is a physical ranged class not the same as say a warrior that has nearly 100% up time these days?
Not sure I understand the BM hate.
Honestly, ranged casters (non healers) need a buff more than melee needing nerfs. For starters all casters should have a disarm to match all interrupts and kicks. Start there.
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you’re asking for nerf for the bm hunter, but you can’t get to gladiator being venthyr… i don’t get you dude! or you just hate it when other hunters beat you.
One of the reasons i play Surv Feign… i dont want to be that Duelist who presses 2 button and made fun of 
No BM hunter in the game has hit two buttons to duelist. Hyperbolic comments will never address the issues of BM. What makes HUNTERS broken is the legendary. If SV did the same or more damage as BM the tears would fall on that side of the fence.
If you think SV rotation is that much more complicated than BM then this conversation isn’t even worth having. They quite literally have the same amount of dps buttons to push. You could argue BM doesn’t have to press kill command but it’s still worth pressing in plenty of situations that it is counted.
Coordinated assault
Kill command
Kill Shot
Serpent sting
Raptor strike
Bomb
Aspect of the Wild
Bestial Wrath
Kill command
Kill shot
Barbed shot
Cobra shot
I would also argue rolling a triple stack of frenzy and/or ensuring a triple stack is rolling for burst is harder setup than holding both bombs until full focus to dump with raptor strikes. Not pressing buttons for burst will always be easier than micromanaging buffs for burst.
As for MM bring harder, I’d agree, but only due to the cast time and setup. Just a lot easier to shut down MM hunters goes with stuns and LOS. Hilariously enough they only have seven dps buttons outside of cov to press. Literally one more.
Trueshot
Aimed shot
Rapid fire
Explosive shot
Kill shot
Arcane shot
Steady shot
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Yeah. I’ve been having a real hard time with the idea that BM is mongo easy and yet something like fire mage requires some great amount of higher brain function. Been playing a fire mage a bit and it feels so much easier than hunter. I don’t even have Triune yet.
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dude if u dont play surv please dont just write nonsense, well if u dont already know, good surv use Chakrams, Steel trap and Flaking Strike as benchmark. Not mentioning the tricky use of diamond ice (which most good surv use) and Nets against certain comps, also u didnt mention Harpoon and aspect of eagle which u need to time perfectly. We even have like 10-15 more keybindings then BM, we even have a keybind for Flanking strike/interrupt since we dont have ranged interrupts. (an example of what keybinds we use). im not a glad im just a duelist this season… soo imagine how multiglads R1 surv hunters play and ull see the diff.
I play all three. Venthyr seems to be the best if you want to play all three. Thanks. I did forget flanking strike, but I left out harpoon and eagle as I was talking about the dps rotation. My point, if you read it at all, was BM isn’t a two button rotation. And nobody is getting duelist pushing two buttons as a BM hunter.
I hardly feel my raptor stike with a ctrl modifier for flanking is that much more difficult to play. And you certainly don’t have 15 more bindings than BM unless your macro game is weak AF. You have net, harpoon, eagle, bandage, and steel. The rest can be handled by common macros. And even then I use modifier macros for those. Lock stone and bandage. Harpoon and FD. Eagle and Coordinated. Steel and tar. Net is the only outlier for me
The misinformation here is actually unreal. It is well known at this point that BM is the easiest spec in the game to do damage. Not only that but it is one of the safest specs to do damage with.
Comparing rotations to another spec, survival in this case, really hurts your bad argument. Let’s go ahead and look at the rotational, non burst cds as this is what will be primarily used.
BM - Barbed Shot, into Cobra Shot. That’s all folks.
Survival - Serpent Sting, Wildfire Bomb, Kill Command, Raptor Strike, Chakrams, Flanking Strike (The primary build right now specs into Chakrams/Flanking).
Now we know BM also has Kill Command, but ask the best arena hunters in the game right now and they will tell you, its not primarily used in the dmg rotation. Situational at best to charge the pets over.
The problem is, for a spec that is so ridiculously easy to do damage on, it should not be putting up the numbers it does. Venthyr helps alot here, but acting like any covenant couldn’t do it is laughable @Thuperduper.
TLDR
BM is insanely easy to play and far too oppressive for its lack of complexity.
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Lol you got the bm rotation wrong in ur speech. Actually its barbed shot, barbed shot, apsect of the wild, beastial wrath, barbed shot, (covenant ability), kill command, barbed shot, cobra, cobra, barbed shot. With procs of kill shot mixed in on procs if you are venthyr.
Ur version ud
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