Nemesis groups

For the love of god can’t Devs balance these groups? Between them and Brann being all messed up it appears Blizzard just wants people to stop running delves.
Yes and Ret is still terrible even after 5% buff

I am running a 10 Earthcrawl Mines atm with all 4 Nemesis groups dead, and even gained a life when I hit the check point. Sounds like you just don’t get the fight mechanics. :man_shrugging:

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Delves got harder with a major patch? Tell me it ain’t so.

Am I imagining things or is Brann doing way less damage now? Like he isn’t “going all out!” as often for starters. I know at least we need to get the best curios again so that might be part of the problem.

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Eh, they are a bit wonky, sometimes you get a pack of 2, but then you get a pack of like 6 and have to freaking work like crazy not to die

(Always the wild caller first)

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The nemesis groups have some more difficult mechanics, and at lvl 10, the Boss health pool is like 200M, so it takes a bit to whittle him down, even at 678 (current item level). The fights are fun, but they are still pretty chill up til lvl 8. I just finished my first 10 of the season (for the achievement) and will be on to an 11 next.

I just stagger the healing potions and go ape.

Brann’s AI is all sorts of messed up right now.
I do 11s on my Bear, BDK, Fury warrior, Destro Warlock, WW Monk and Ret Paladin.
My paladin is the only one I have problems with, and its always the giant pack nemesis group that has like 6 in it and each hit for 2+ million white damage.

Perks of being a Guardian Druid, fights are slower, but 17M HP goes a long way LOL

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the new guys are definately much more imposing but i do think a large part of that is a typical delver was basically reduced to full adventurer gear level, when they used to be full heroic. Those underpin explosive allies used to wreck my mage untill i got to a point i could destroy them with ring of frost/comet storm.

Worst thing right now is in some delves that have super dense packs so you end up with like 5 normal mobs plus a nemesis collection. If its just the 2 nemesis guys maybe, but get a wildcaller, a 40m+ hp charge bug, a bunch of the sand step guys and an arcane barrier dude PLUS 5 other generic mobs at veteran-ish level and its not going to end well

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Yeah. I mean I guess the overcharged buffs also spoiled me. But I’m noticing things dying a low slower now…

Granted I’m 680ivl slugging through tier 11s so I suppose I should expect some degree of tedium.

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Glad to know I’m not the only one. :sweat_smile:

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Brann’s not bad if you know how to use him. Set him for the best curios on heals, and then pull packs and back up 10 feets. Then his AOE does not pull more. Kite him around a bit to make sure he is not throwing potions in the fire :smiley: Easy peasy.

The main problem (as has been discussed since the patch dropped) isn’t that we’re significantly weaker this early in the season, it’s that for certain classes (such as those with pets), the immense amount of damage from many of these mobs is AoE that for someone reason pets no longer avoid, and thus get absolutely wrecked.

It’s exacerbated because many of the nemesis mobs have moves that you can’t really dodge. Those warp moves are significantly harder for a player to dodge (and impossible for a pet). Compare that to the nemesis mobs from 11.1, where their AoE and high damaging abilities were slower and much more dodgeable. Also, pets with the Avoidance didn’t have to worry, but of course, Blizzard’s incompetence in dropping a patch has resulted in pet Avoidance in delves not working as it should.

I’m at 694 with a Brann at 90 and T11s still require focus in a way that they simply didn’t in 11.1 at a comparable gear level.

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Speaking of Brann at 90, is it just me or does he level a lot slower now? I don’t always get XP and when I do it isn’t the big 400k chunks I’d get from bountiful delves before. It’s like… less than 20k. What am I missing? Maybe I just need to read a full FAQ on exactly how his experience gains work…

Yup agree, like my Fury Warrior is ilvl678, he wrecks everything still, doesn’t matter which group.
Meanwhile my ilvl687 Ret can take care over everything but the pack that starts with 6 mobs in it. Its bad enough that I just skip them if I can.