I need folks to check out my gear and talents and help me out with pumping more damage for heroic raiding. I get food buff, tepid verse pot, and normal buff. still im not pumping 70-150k like everyone else. im a 422 destrolock
Try get some logs from extra in depth help. However just from your stats you have way too much crit and verse, your trinkets are pretty bad for destro and your chest is unenchanted.
Heres a small list of quick to slow things you should get
1 - Enchant your chest with waking stats
2 - Enchant your rings with haste instead of verse
3 - Try get your 4 set
4 - Try get Trinkets Vessal and Chromium from raid
After these 4 are HUGE improvements just from gear not considering skill usage.
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I was interested to see how much difference these enchants made, so I simmed with them removed.
Waking Stats 3: 1079dps (1.4%)
2 x +88haste on rings: 150dps (0.18%)
I also simmed the difference between haste and vers on my rings and vers ended up being 4dps better (ie negligible).
So really, looks like the chest enchant is noticeable, but the rings pretty much irrelevant and within the margin of error.
Just looking at your character sheet you don’t have spellthread for your pants, nothing for boots (no dps enchants as such, i use speed, also use speed for cloak.), no gem for belt?
I can’t tell, but you don’t seem to have any embellishments? Craft amice of the blue + cloth wrists or belt with shadowflame patch. Or wrists and belt with shadowflame patch and not the amice.
As mentioned trinkets aren’t great, that sands of temporal perfection especially.
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Your talents are all wrong. They’re a weird mix of aoe and single target and miss a couple huge nodes. Every activity will require you to lean one way or the other, you can not do a half-and-half approach.
I suggest doing some homework and checking out Icyveins or Wowhead for the correct talent trees for both single target and aoe activities. Also check out the warlock class discord for any specific questions. They’re super helpful.
Change your talents, look up a rotation guide and practice it on a training dummy in any of the major cities. You will see a huge improvement.
hmmm, i did have rain of fire just cause i normally dont change my talents but now since im focusing raid i did remove the rain of fire talents and selected other stuff, i immolate for dot and chaos bolt dmg buff, conflag for ss frag and haste, then chaos bolt as much as i can while using soul fire and demonbolt on cooldown, and incenerate inbetween all that as fill and ss frag builder… out of that i dont see anything wrong
Going off of the talents I see on your armory right now.
Class tree:
- You only have 1 point in Soul Conduit which is only a 5% refund on Soulshards instead of 10%, which sounds small until you realize it’s 10% per soul shard used. Which means every Chaos Bolt is 2 10% chances. That is a pretty big talent over 5 minute fight.
- You’re missing Demonic Inspiration, we are a pet class so anything to help them helps us.
- You take Banish which 90% of the time is useless, it’s a wasted point that could be used elsewhere.
- Accrued Vitality is kinda crap when you could take something like Sweet Souls and the Dark Pact and Unending Resolve upgrades.
- You’re missing Soulburn which is just FANTASTIC utility. Big healthstone, movement speed when using Demonic Circle, Instant gateways, and since you like using Drain Life - drain life gives a shield. That talent is busted in terms of all around usefulness.
- Grim Feast again drain life is just kinda meh no one takes this talent.
I realize some of these class tree talents are not damage oriented and may sound pointless to change but surviving mechanics is more important than damage since if you’re dead you’re not contributing.
Spec tree with a single target mindset:
- You’re missing Chaos Incarnate - HUGE damage talent. it removes the RNG aspect of our mastery stat giving us a consistent % damage buff.
- You’re skipping out on Avatar of Destruction which is a free mini-Infernal every 10-15 soulshards we spend.
- Recommend 1 point in Master Ritualist makes the mentioned above 15 soulshard spend requirement only 12. (We’re strapped on points so we only put 1 in instead of 2)
- You’re never supposed to take Fire and Brimstone, even in AoE.
- Summon Infernal. That is our big cooldown. You miss SO much damage from not having it.
Besides that this sounds like a rotational issue. You should not just be dumping all of your shards on Chaos Bolts because we have talents called Madness of the Azj’aqir that buffs Chaos Bolt and Burn to Ashes which buffs Incinerates.
Generally your rotation should look something like Chaos Bolt > Incinerate > Chaos Bolt > Incinerate, while weaving in Soulfire, Conflag, and Immolate as necessary.
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You may also have some large variance in damage based on Inquisitors gaze procs. I’ve seen it sway anywhere from like 2% to 8% of a warlocks damage based purely on how often it decided to show up.
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post logs and I’ll look them over
done reviews for many people on here in the past
I gave up, with everything i try im still pulling 40k-50k dps as destro, im trying to manage mechanics and casting seems so slow for chaos and soulfire, i have 22% haste, and im getting pms and kicked cause my dmg is too low, sim had me at 78k and its just not performing that way, literally was in a group with a destro pulling 98k dps idk what im doing wrong. Even added inferno to try to get a lil extra but 3min cooldown only a one pop, and i hit a trinket that has a big dmg but long cool down. I also use the verse 30min pot plus verse 30sec pot. Nothing is getting me to hit consistant 70-90k dps. While trying to fine tune everything i did go from the 30k+ dps last week to atleast the 40-50k dps this week but its still not enough.
I would just add that this rotation is generally not sustainable and there are periods where you need to build back up to ~4.5 shards to do it again until it’s gone. So it’s more like building up full shard windows to get as many incinerate/CB’s chained (the rotation) until it’s empty again (without capping on shards).
I generally try to time building and spending phases around mechanics.
Destro feels different compared to SL. It doesn’t feel as easy. I’m not really loving it.
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That’s still a big improvement and you should be happy with what you’ve got so far 
I suggest posting logs of your next raid so people like Mannimarco can take a closer look at them and see exactly what you’re doing wrong.
In the meantime you should watch a rotation video by someone such as Kalamazi and go practice it out on a training dummy.
Try to aim for using Conflagrate to give yourself the Backdraft buff right before you use Soulfire and Chaos bolt. Backdraft is a 30% haste buff for your next Incinerate, Chaos Bolt, or Soulfire.