Need Help Learning Hunter (I'm New To WoW)

[Arinowene-bloodsail-buccaneers]

Is that what I said? Even in your original quote of me, where you cut one of my sentences in half, the relevant part is still there.

But to spell it out, they’re for PvP, and for desperate “my pet is either dead, or feared or something” situations. You’ll do more damage if you can be at range. And maybe, if you’re “speed leveling,” it’s “better” for that goal not to deal with ammo…but that’s not a way I would ever advise anyone to play a hunter.

[Slimerazor-mankrik]

Well, I couldn’t find much from googling, so I decided to ask here to get an opinion from players who are currently playing and have been playing for a long time.

[Dantric-llane]

But to spell it out, they’re for PvP, and for desperate “my pet is either dead, or feared or something” situations.

Ok- you may not know who Journey is, but since he has gotten to 60 in a few days played by making extensive use of melee abilties against mobs I’m inclined to think that’s the most effective use of a hunter’s abilities.

In particular, Journey often uses his melee abilities as executes of sort - he has hit pet on the target, and when it’s about to die he goes in for a melee attack and then moves on to the next target. I saw him do that constantly. His credentials are being one of the most highly regarded Vanilla hunters. What are your credentials?

[Zrog-myzrael]

If you’re solo leveling, focus on (agility = spirit) > Int > Stam. Agility increases your damage and critical strike chance, spirit increases your health/mana regen (less downtime between mobs) and stam increases your health. Avoid strength and any melee weapons that say “chance on hit” as those are worthless.

Level as BM. Get a pet and train growl and let it do the work. I usually hunter mark, serpent sting, then auto shot to death.

Review a hunter leveling guide as they’ll go into more detail. Happy hunting!

[Arinowene-bloodsail-buccaneers]

Ok- you may not know who Journey is, but since he has gotten to 60 in a few days played by making extensive use of melee abilties against mobs I’m inclined to think that’s the most effective use of a hunter’s abilities.

In particular, Journey often uses his melee abilities as executes of sort - he has hit pet on the target, and when it’s about to die he goes in for a melee attack and then moves on to the next target. I saw him do that constantly. His credentials are being one of the most highly regarded Vanilla hunters. What are your credentials?

rolls eyes My credentials are being someone who knows what an argument from authority fallacy is, is posting on a Classic character, and isn’t equating “rush to 60” with “playing the game.”

I understand you were unprepared for mentioning Journey to not get an automatic concession–and that being the case, I’m not at all sure why you ever asked me questions at all instead of going straight to “Journey sez you’re wrong”-- but really, you’re not going to find what you’re looking for here. Again: You give your advice, if you have advice applicable to Classic, and I’ll give mine.

Edited to add: Wait wait. I confess, you did get me curious enough to google Journey.

“Journey, a Night Elf Hunter on Northdale, has reached level 60 in 3 days 7 hours.”

Are you talking about Classic, or are you talking about a private server?

[Reverie-earthfury]

So not trying to sound like total dick here, but if you know zero about your class as for skills and what you want to look for wouldn’t it make sense to do a quick google search and read up the basics then you could come here to ask for advice on things you don’t understand or want clarification on?

I mean coming here and saying I know nothing, teach me… isn’t going to help a whole a lot as per the post above that that just give you links you could have goggled yourself.

Or, you know, you can ask advice from the community… isn’t that what everyone misses about Vanilla? The sense of community and helping each other out?

There’s nothing wrong with asking more experienced players what their suggestions are. Sure, the OP can just Google stuff, but sometimes it’s nice to ask on the forums because people can suggest the best sites for info.

I Google everything and am usually directed to Icy Veins or Wowhead, but for classic I’ve had a few times where they offered conflicting advice, so it’s not always the most reliable.

Anyways, nothing wrong with asking a few questions. That’s what the forums and the community is for. If people don’t want to help, they won’t, but there’s still no harm in trying.

[Bandet-smolderweb]

Here’s what you do.

When there’s a melee on you, feign death to drop combat and then trap.

And then die because that didn’t work because it’s broken.

[Dantric-llane]

@Arinowene-bloodsail-buccaneers

Are you talking about Classic, or are you talking about a private server?

Both - Journey streams on this channel, but he removed his Classic leveling VODs (I downloaded a couple before he did since I wanted to learn Classic hunter tips):

Twitch

He was the first Classic player to level 38 but he said on his stream that he was going to sleep then since he realized dungeon grinding was too powerful on Classic (dungeon XP later got nerfed). But by getting to level 38 before anyone else in the game, I think he showed he can do efficient damage as a Classic hunter as well.

[Rocksalot-herod]

Roll need on everything and make friends.

[Ragnaros-kirtonos]

Don’t sleep on stamina on a PVP server. I’d take it over intellect for the 30-45 manifest if you’re planning on going to STV.

[Ragnaros-kirtonos]

This has been pretty close to my experience. I usually get 1/3 to work

[Startuptim-sulfuras]

Another trick is to have the pet “stay” and once you jump down and get farther away he disappears. You can then summon him back. This avoids the minus 50 happiness debuff for dismissing the pet.

The happiness loss occurs whenever the pet despawns for any reason.

[Spòóky-netherwind]

The class is designed for ranged attacks, and keeping your targets out of melee distance…

[Eurilli-garrosh]

Good aoe tanking pet is a bird with screech. For dungeons cat or wolf is recommended, pvp, that depends on what you want the pet to do, I like the boar in WSG for example.

Rest other people have posted links to for guides. Just remember guides are recommendations, not bibles.

GL!

[Desdemonia-bloodsail-buccaneers]

Lot of not helpful replies here, OP. Usually the Hunter community is a bit better than that.

I got up to rank 10 in Vanilla on my Nelf Hunter, best times I had in WoW. I was mostly PvP so if you want to seriously raid you can have others help with that.

Pets
This is a really personal decision, so follow the Rule of Cool. If you like the pet, rock it and have fun. If you want to min/max or browse all the pretty animals go to petopia .com and search through their Classic section; every pet and all their stats are there.

There’s only a few things you really need to keep in mind:

1. Pet Skills. You must tame wild animals who possess certain skills and then spend time with that animal as a companion until you learn the skill to teach to your own pets. Petopia can help you plot the animals you will need to tame for all those skills (max ranks of Bite and Claw are most important).
2. Fast Attack pets are for PvP. Their pushback against casters is real. Broken Tooth is the fastest (1.0) but anything which is <1.4 speed should be fine unless you’re a tryhard.
3. Some pets are better for PvE, but all will work. I loved my boar because he was tough, fast, and ate anything. If you are in love with another pet, that’s fine too.

Gear

1. Agility is your best friend, get as much as you can find.
2. Stamina is next best if you PvP.
3. “… of the Monkey” mail gear will get you to lvl 60 smoothly and happily.
4. The AV quest reward x-bow is your BiS weapon until you start raiding.
5. If you PvP, slow weapons are your best bet. Running and kiting means you won’t get much auto shot happening, so when you do stop for an Aimed Shot a slower weapon hits much harder.

Spec

1. BM is great for leveling and eats most casters in PvP.
2. 0/31/20 is a great spec you can raid and PvP with.
3. 0/21/30 is a great PvP spec with burly traps, extra Stamina, and piled up Agility for more Crit and defense.
4. Don’t melee hunter. Just don’t.
   4a. I would take Savage Strikes for bigger crits on Raptor/Mongoose, but you better be throwing a Wing Clip at the same time and then leaving the scene. We do our big damage with ranged weapons, if we get caught we will die. Full stop.

Skills

1. What skills do you use most while leveling? Train those skills.
2. At 60, when you have a bit more G$ buy all the skills you skipped.

Pro Tips

1. Hunters have one of the highest skill ceilings in the game, exploring it is very fun.
2. YOU MUST LEARN TO KITE. Full stop.
   2a. Kiting involves slowing your opponent and staying at range so they cannot reach you. Concussive Shot and Wing Clip are your primary slows, learn to utilize them well. Your enemies should ALWAYS be slowed with at least one of those abilities.
   2b. You should learn the Jump Shot for things like kiting Drakk. You run away, leap in the air, turn 180 degrees to shoot the enemy chasing you, and then turn back forwards to keep running without missing a step.
   2c. If you’re in tight quarters you will strafe kite in circles, wing clip will be used much more here.
3. Trapping is critical. Traps are layed out of combat so you’ll develop a strong sense of connection between Feign Death* and your traps. Often you must preface the whole thing with Scattershot to actually get the mob or the enemy to step in your traps so practice Scatter->FD->Trap until it’s effortless.
   3a. Learn to “double trap” in dungeons, survival skills will help. Lay a trap pre-pull, wait for cool down. Pull your enemy into that trap. Immediately lay another freezing trap at their feet. When the first one wears off (or breaks), they walk right into the second one.
4. You are the anti-rogue, play like it. Flare all the time. If you see an enemy rogue light them up like New Year’s Eve. Flare, Hunter’s Mark, Serpent Sting… if you don’t get them your team will.
5. You might be asked to pull to the tank in dungeons. Use low rank shots and/or FD once tank engages.
6. Turn off Growl in groups and PvP.
7. Get good at moving mobs. If all hell breaks loose in a dungeon you can grab loose mobs at range (or peel from healer) and lead away to trap until you feel like leading them back to your tank. A second mob can be tanked by your pet for a time. Then you can grab a third to kite around yourself. Hopefully by taking on 3 mobs at once for the squad the tank and healer can pull everything back together again.
   7a. Practice positioning mobs while you’re leveling. Get good and people will LOVE grouping witb you.

And most importantly, HAVE FUN!

*Feign Death isn’t working all that well right now, that’s the main reason I’m not rolling hunter right now.

[Redwolf-arugal]

Jump onto the Classic Hunter Discord channel, they are very helpful on there and have some really good information… They’re happy to answer all your questions…

https:// discord. gg/n8364tU - Just remove the spaces…

[Hammy-bigglesworth]

Omg you’re a doll I love you <3

[Nife-faerlina]

As a hunter, it is your prerogative to roll need on literally every single item you can equip