Hey,
What do tanks think to this affix? Necrotic? I personally hate the affix, I’d like it removed or completely reworked.
It is not fun, you cannot pull big, and when an affix is so bad it makes tanks not want to play, then…it’s a bad affix.
What do you think? Reworked? Or removed?
You actually can pull big, just need the right teammates. We run with a blood DK tank, resto sham, and boomie. On huge pulls, we just use boomie trees and wind rush totem so the tank can freely run off and drop stacks. Necrotic means nothing with boomie trees.
I don’t like it either, i did not like in the past and tried to avoid necro weeks as tank.
As a healer now i feel like i am useles when a tank has high stacks.
Just peel for the tank so he can drop stacks, or if he’s Kyrian, the kyrian potion from the servant clears the stacks.
I think people know these tactics.
Then there’s no reason not to like it, there’s so many ways to completely ignore necrotic. It’s one of the easier affixes that affect tanks.
“like something” is totally personal and relative. you can’t decide it on behalf of someone else.
Oh shoot. I’m so sorry 
i bet you are.
Unfortunately not Kryan, LOL. I don’t think that the Kyrian Vial should remove this.
For a Druid tank, yeah I can see Necrotic being a huge pain. Druid’s thing is damage mitigation. You take a hell of a lot less per hit, but those stacks keep on adding up.
I ran a 14 DoS the other day with a Druid tank, and when they started to get a lot of stacks they pushed everything away. That was my que to Piercing howl and give em room to drop stacks. There are a few other tricks, depending on your healer though. Paladin’s could blinding light to give some time, mass roots from a druid, hell, shaman’s stun totem as well. Mind you, these all assume the mobs can be CC’d, otherwise (que dramatic music) run.
Or the pally in your example can just BoP him it is a external. He than hits hit cancel aura quick even if melee eat one hit on tyr week wont kill them and if hes fast they wont even take a hit. Hell he can even bind the cancel aura to all his buttons to instant remove if he wants.
BoP removes necrtoic.
Mass root from the druid works or if immune to CC they just treant.
Priest can grip him also to help if mobs get near on the kite.
Necrotic is a non affix there is no reason to remove one of the better affixes. The issue this week is bolstering that dose slow down keys a fiar bit making it a annoying affix in pugs cord groups its fine for but pugs never seam to understand target the high hp one and cleave even.
Tanks arnt playing this week since its tyr not since its necrotic and to a lesser degrees bolstering. Pug dps always mess up bolstering making the run just take longer and as such painfull + as you bolster the tank has to deal with the blunt of it. Necrotic tanks don’t avoid its one of the best affixes to see. As we know WE can control if its a issue and as such the best possible case. As that way pugs don’t waste our time.
With just a boomy 90% of trash pulls never need to kite to drop stacks. Add a pally of any spec and all the bosses you need to drop stacks on that are hard to drop becomes a non factor and the few pulls that stacks go up to fast for boomy alone are also solved.
There are many other ways such as using a DH tank as they have no issues kiting like most groups. Or take a prot pally that can reset them freely with one reset on avg every min. (the exact same cd of trents so a boomy makes any tank into the same as a kyrain prot pally for trash.
As this is a kite meta as it is even without necrotic, necrotic esp is a non affix as all it dose it prolong the kite by a few secs as should be kiting anyways.
As for a druid tank having issues that a class level issue not a issue with the affix. Druids are not popular in keys due to them already having issues compared to other tanks (dh) norm, mainly the lack of abilty to kite well in a kite meta. The kite affix only adds to it. The issue here is the druids lack of abilty to kite and lacking tools to deal with that effectively. Prot pallys make up for lack of kite skills with rather OP cds like final stand. Druids don’t got something comparable. The issue is there toolkit lacking something to make them stand out and able to handle keystones in the current form compared to the top tanks (mainly compared to DH).
I’ve never cared about necrotic. On any tank I’ve played (warrior, paladin, DH). Either I had the defense that my hp didn’t drop fast enough to care or I had tools to remove it if I was in trouble. With the new meta of tanking (kiting), you’re already just going in, blow up some damage and getting out anyway, so it’s even less of an affix.
Tanking m+ these days revolves around kiting mobs even without Necrotic, which sucks and isn’t very fun. I do notice there’s a lot of fast hitting mobs in Shadowlands dungeons too, which makes toe to toe fighting anything for 5 sec generate 30 stacks or more, which again, isn’t fun. But eh, that’s Necrotic in a nutshell anyways. Not very scary, just boring. Some people might enjoy kiting mobs for 90% of the dungeon, I personally don’t.
As a blood dk, who has hardly has any movement tools to kite since half the mobs in some of these dungeons can’t be slowed I think Necrotic should be for sure removed, unless blizzard makes some of them kiteable or give blood a bigger ams or something so that we can attempt to remove it like we did in the past.
Monks and druids have utilities that are really helpful. Leg Sweep and Ring of Peace for the Monk, and Mass Roots and Ursol’s Vortex for the Druid.
If a pack has a a mob in it that can’t be cc’d, burn that down, then kite/cc to clear the necrotic stacks.
I actually like this affix because it feels like you can do something about it.
I just hate necrotic when you get put into a small area with an enemy that can’t be cc’ed (such as slowed, knocked back, stunned etc). Such as the necropolis in Necrotic Wake when you have to fight Goregrind and Rotspew. I also swear enemies have a faster base movement speed than players. Even slowing enemies that can slowed still move fast. Doesn’t help either when you have enemies that can leap to you from like 40+ yards away.
Which is funny as blizzard hates this, which was why tank threat was so weak early into the expansion.
It’s a non affix for Kyrian prot paladins who have 3 ways to remove necrotic as well as be immune to further applications of necrotic stacks for 8-10 seconds.
It’s really not a non-affix otherwise. You have to change the way you pull this week with necrotic in mind. E.G. you can’t pull blight bags on top of other trash in NW this week because you’ll have huge amounts of necrotic stacks very quickly if you do that and the abominations in those packs are not kitable.
As said right in the post its not just a non affix for kirain prot pallys but all tanks so long as you take a boomy that results in exactly the same amount of resets for trash as kiran prot pallys in a better way on top as not only resets but takes over tanking preventing the need to kite.
Boomy is even meta to boot so your not even changing the vast majortiy of groups.
While the few instances that has a boss thats hard to reset just having any pally at all in the run fixes that via bop. While there is tons of other ways to do it just the same with far less work that quite a number of other affixes.
Furthermore the meta tank DH dosen’t even notice necrotic also while every tank should be kiting anyways making necrotic onlyt require you to kite for slightly longer.
Your example as a eg shows right away how bad your post is you not only can pull brightbags with other stuff in NW you WANT to still. You pull them you drop trents like you do exactly the same as every week and kill them before the end of trents just like every week to do large amounts of damage to the other groups. In fact as its tyr should be doing this during the boss as they don’t bolster so your trents only taunt them so no reason to not save to use when pulled during boss. This results in them doing damage to the boss on death while not making the boss noticeability harder in fact making the boss easier. Even more so as that boss has times he lets stacks drop on his own even if you get a few stacks before the trents take over.
Necrotic is a non affix. Its one of the easiest possible ones to deal with in fact even more so then inspiring that requires you to CC and pull away mobs for a few select packs based on group necrotic you don’t change the meta groups at all. Yet you claim its only a non affix for prot pally furthermore kiran, that is no where near true as the meta group doesn’t even use one even for necrotic.
IF your not using the meta groups its going to be harder just like it would be anyways via not using the meta group thats why they are meta. In fact this is even less true with necrotic that makes pally of any spec more in demand in fact making more classes wanted vs just the meta classes which is a quite good thing.
Even without a boomy there is multi ways to handle necrotic with ease giving quite a number of ways and comps that handle necrotic with ease turning it into a non affix yes one of those is a kiran prot pally this is FAR from the only way. IF you make a group avoiding all of these, ending with your group not being able to handle it. Thats the group leader messing up not the affix being a issue.
So it’s a non affix as long as you take a particular spec to specifically deal with it, gotcha.
IF you make a group avoiding all of these, ending with your group not being able to handle it. Thats the group leader messing up not the affix being a issue.
My bad, I guess I forgot to ask my friends to reroll this week because i need them to be boomkin for this week for a “non-affix”