Necrotic and Tanks

I went into shadowlands as a healer and holy s**t when my gear was low I really had a hard time even doing simple heroic dungeons. Most of the times it was tank’s fault rushing though the instance. I tried to improve myself and also read opinions around to understand what the situation was. I found the usual flame post with healers accusing tanks, tanks accusing healers.

Now, I honestly find the actual attitude a little mental. People just run forward, the only thing a tank is required to do is to know a path and relentlessly follow it. Why are you in a rush? You are still getting a +1 key, maybe +2. Really, what is your rush? Did your personal financial advisor suddenly called you to move millions of dollars on some stock position so that you can make billions out of it? Probably not. First, you do not have a personal financial advisor and second you wouldn’t be playing wow and trying to be a “pro” at it if you did. Your time is not more precious than anybody else’s, you are not doing anything important. You are not special. You do not deserve a f***ing thing.

Now, I can’t help but notice an evident lack of tanks this week. I know, 9.0.x has been out for a while, there are less players around, there is less enthusiasm, blah blah blah. Yet, last week, when mythic modifiers were more manageable, I was able to find way more tanks than this week and way faster. Like a lot more. Like so many more that if anybody had a different opinion, I’d say they are just lying and in bad faith.

You would naturally wonder why. I’ll tell you why, because necrotic is a mechanic that you cannot pin on the healer. Healers have no way to counter or mitigate the mechanic. It is not up to them, they cannot do st. When you get more than 50 stacks on you, healing is reduced by 100%. I could be the most skillful meta-shaman/holypala, that in normal condition poops out 20k hps to cover everybody else’s negligence, still my healing would be reduced to zero. Now, I know I am a measly druid, so not the meta-healer of the expac(have resto druid ever been at the top in non-prepatch full released content? honest question, seriously, I have no clue) and I know my raider IO is st and people will look at it to invalidate my point, but again whoever will do this is in bad faith and inside they know it.

Necrotic is entirely up to tank’s brain to understand when they have to get out, kite and let the debuff to expire, by using the tools they are provided. The only other way to mitigate it is that dps do so much damage that mobs/bosses die quickly enough so that the tank doesn’t accumulate too many stacks.

So, I actually forgot what was the point I was trying to make, but you can infer it from what I wrote. Most likely I was myself putting blames on other classes, bear with me and forgive me for that.

Bye

rdruid is very much meta since the recent buffs

rdruid was contesting the top spot with hpal through all of legion and bfa

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I think you are too angry. This game is not affecting you in a good way.

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You have tools to assist the tank’s ability to kite. Ursol’s Vortex, you can opt into Typhoon and/or Mass Entanglement, plus Stampeding Roar. Additionally if you’re on a boss, you can even taunt the boss and kite briefly to allow the tank to reset necrotic (for instance on Gorechop, that’s the first one that comes to mind in my experience)

Necrotic putting stacks on the tank doesn’t make it an exclusively tank mechanic. Heck, when I dps on Necrotic, the run seems to revolve around Trees more than the tank’s own ability to kite :stuck_out_tongue:

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BOP drops necrotic stacks, so paladins are very capable of making necrotic a non-issue.

Also necrotic isn’t fun, it’s not just the tank’s job, I don’t know why you feel so adversarial about the game. You should really relax.

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I got an email saying I won the Nigerian lottery and I had to quickly enter my bank information to collect the $35 I was due.

I think what he means is that it’s still up to the tank to recognize “Oh, my stacks are high, I need to kite now”, rather than just continue to charge forward and chain pull without leaving combat.

your victim complex is showing.

100% this. the party needs to use the tools available to them to help the tank kite.

I have a financial advisor and I play wow. You should have one regardless of your income level.

So you’re accusing the tanks.

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How about the reason you can’t find tanks being “necrotic is a punishing affix that makes an already hard job exponentially more difficult and toxic, and they have to worry about bolstering and tyrannical on top of it all?”.

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That’s why roots/tar/binding shot/aoe fear/group stuns/dizzy from all classes are awesome this week. Shoutout to Venthyr AoE dizzy for a clutch save on our tank to drop stacks the other day.

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Are keys this week dead? Seems so

Resto druid. He don’t move? Yeah that’s bad…can I help? You betcha. So why you whining?

this is how i know you are a terrible healer and dont know how to play above heroic.

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Phial of serenity

Thanks for this, I didn’t know. I only recently started an hpal and tonight was wondering ways I could help with Necrotic. Any other tips? Since I’m new to holy paladin I don’t know all the tricks yet.

My main is resto shaman and I’ve been loving spirit link totem for those moments when we’re about to kill all the mobs but the tank has too many stacks. It gives us time to finish off the pull and let the stacks drop. Also capacitor totem is great to give the tank some time to get away.

I never feel that anything is solely the tank’s job, or the healer’s job, or the DPS’s job. I interrupt when I can, I do damage when I can, and during this week help the tank when I can. It’s a group effort.

Been awhile, but iirc, bop causes threat to disappear so tank loses aggro…I’m sure some can help more tho.

Gotta warn the tank before hand though, cause it also drops agroo

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In comparison to hpal and shaman? I’m sorry, but no bro. And I main rdruid.