Hear me out before you think I’m trying to nerf your class.
Right now you all are very powerful… I really do not mind, this is not about that.
In the next expansion, if you are not somehow nerfed into the dirt, you will be straight up kings considering the design for this hero class is (skinny mage)
After that though, Necromancer could potentially be a counter class to you all after what looks like 2 more years of you all being over the top fun, and I really think that is in a fair order.
What I would like are thoughts on what could help necromancers be a real challenge for rogues in a FUN way, before they are introduced at all and there is no salt. I want you to assume that they show up after rogues become a far greater problem in the future (in a fun way for a while for you, but even that will get really old perhaps as its a deep-meta issue), as something you could play even.
Just conceptual stuff… like how they would do it, in the fantasy.
I enjoy the thought of it being a pet class that is far more pet focused then Hunter. Perhaps the pets act in a reactionary way for the necromancer and actively try to preserve him, to preserve themselves. Providing him with a pocket healer and wake up mechanics. This could add to a concept of a built in mini game kind of for you all, were it is more important to kill the necromancers pocket healer before focusing the player.
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Necromancer is never going to happen.
Rogue counters already exist.
Please stop posting more bad ideas.
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Everyone keeps saying Rogues are so fun. How is it we’re the least played class across the board? We’re good at PvP, but in PvE our damage is lackluster compared to the others. Assassin can’t AoE, Sub can but it’s single is okay. Fake combat is always in limbo but still terrible feeling.
I stopped finding Rogue fun long ago. I don’t PvP much anymore. I mostly M+ and Raid when I can. I don’t get invited to 15’s despite having 20’s complete. When I do get into 20’s I’m blown away by the dps of other classes. I don’t blame people for not inviting me. Rogue is bad. Many other classes do more AoE and single target than us by a large margin. We don’t give buffs.
Thus we are the least played class. If I hadn’t put so much time into this Rogue and more things like rep were account wide, I’d have re-rolled a while ago. Probably when blizz destroyed combat.
We’ll that is two cowardly none responses.
Anyone else?
I appreciate your enthusiasm man . Ranged necro won’t happen anytime soon as Unholy DK literally is a necromancer.
This post also has nothing to do with us rogues. Plenty if rogue counters out there such as forcing our cloak and vanish.
Evasion doesn’t evade aoe attacks.
Not trinketing silly crap is the biggest thing for people. Killing us is an easy feat.
We do not live without our 2 min cds or if we aren’t able to escape. Ferals do the exact same thing +root , 3 stuns . 3 cyclones and bear it up and heal through anyway.
A rogue trinkets - you imprison him or stun again and rush him down. He vanishes , keep up Immolation and eye his behind out. Most people use CDs too late, it’s really not hard to counter or smoke a rogue.
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Its their most requested next class.
Right now they are just ripping off guild wars so that is a logical next class as well.
It will fit their paradigm as class balance, due to this being the 3rd skinny hero class in a row, it kinda leaves the next spot for a tank/caster hero in any case except incompetency.
I did not say anything about you all not being able to die, or that you all do not have counters.
Why try and shut down and avoid the topic this hard?
It has to do with rogues because I’m being specific and asking for rogue main inputs on what mechanics would make a new hypothetical tanky caster fun to play against but you all are getting your nickers in such a twist you are going to deny that necromancers were ever part of world of warcraft next, or that rogues are really under powered right now. Or rogues are not a counter to skinny classes. OR someone will claim I don’t know anything about what I’m talking about, because their dad works at blizzard and were never getting another class after the dragon mages because “tegrety”.
“Its not going to happen and I’m not op. How dare you?” Is all I’m going to get it seems.
Hunter already does well at countering rogue
Respectfully, we rogues don’t care about necromancers, only how to kill them /sharpens daggers
Some cool ideas man, no one is shutting your ideas down, we just aren’t the type to care for magic or minion types and what not. You’re much better off asking one of the magic community.
We rogues do not tank , we are cheap, quick and get in and get out as we aren’t durable.( wrong crowd to attract to necro class)
You’ll get a lot more valuable input from warlocks , other Demon hunters, and Death Knights.
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I kinda wish we got a necromancer caster class but it feels like the right time for it passed. You had all those BfA island mobs hinting at some cool stuff – green grabby hand spells etc – plus the end of the new starter zone PLUS you’re going to the afterlife. Shadowlands was the time to do that.
Now if we get “class skins” one day, I’d be all down for multiple classes to get some necro/lich type overlays.
You! Your perfect.
You need to know when to be truly cheap then my friend. This is an opportunity to build a specific opening on a future foe, plausibly one intended to shut you down in a general kind of aspect.
…another thought I had, because this is a hypothetical future, what if y’all had vanish reset on kill. Then y’all would play a game of disassemble the necromancer and he be attempting some whack a mole shenagense
Lol we break contact when out gunned my dear boy. I cannot wait for Dragonflight and all the potential new cool stuff, especially if us engineers get cool toys.
I really hope they bring all those cool grenades they had on SL database and the optional reagents for cloak enchants.
They had a frost one that would blast people and slow them.
There was a grass seeder grenade with a small radius and a frost patch one but it never came to be.
In SL the belt gadgets stunk but I mostly still use the horror projection device in pve and pvp (from bfa).