Are Nathrezim practically immortal? If they are killed they go back to the Twisting Nether right? If they die in the Twisting Nether they return to the Shadowlands? So then they finally die for good in the Shadowlands?
I wish this wasn’t so confusing to me.
No.
They are demons.
If they die in the Twisting Nether they are permanently dead.
The “areas with high fel concentration” killing demons was a knee-jerk response to the fact Archimonde canonically “died” on Draenor because the lore has never been a priority for the devs, sadly, but it is unfortunately canon as well.
They are beings of the Shadowlands that chugged enough Fel to become Demons.
Aren’t there some that aren’t demons though?
No. All are demons now as of right now, unless they “reveal” otherwise at a later date.
As things stand, they mainly seem to be demons, which would stand to reason; trying to become Death creatures again at this time (perhaps by consuming enough anima, depending upon whether that would even work the same way consuming fel imparts a demonic nature) would actually amount to sacrificing the advantages of perpetual regeneration in the Twisting Nether and exposing themselves to the risk of permanent death while operating in the Shadowlands. Plus Vashj and Kael’thas’ methods of detecting them arguably wouldn’t have worked any more if the dreadlords being hunted weren’t demons.
That said, the hints that they’ve been infiltrating the other cosmic realms as well raises the possibility that there might be some “out there” in the uuniverse who deliberately took on the energetic properties of those domains instead to better fit in and obscure their presence. So unless there are a lot more nathrezim (and there admittedly might be; the actual scale of Revendreth - and therefore its constituent realms, including their former home in the Burning Ward - is a lot larger than the game can portray) most of them seem to have been part of the fel-corrupted, Twisting Nether “branch” of their plans, so the majority would be demons.
Plus there’s the fact that per the nature of their banishment, the demonic dreadlords left themselves identifiable as nathrezim, while any others would have had to completely conceal their nature as such to infiltrate the other realms, meaning the bulk of their numbers are probably among those who became demons and could therefore still operate as “themselves” most of the time.
Kin’tessa seems to have Red Eyes unlike most of the Legion’s Nathrezim…
She may be one of the few Nathrezim who are pure Death but the rest we’ve seen sure aren’t!
Don’t forget Lothraxion. He used to be fel but is now infused with the Light.
I thought only Nathrezim who chugged fell were demons. Those who chugged light, life etc are something else? No?
Lothraxion originally chugged Fel and worked with the Burning Legion, then later became a Light Nathrezim through unspecified circumstances.
I’m not sure. Lothraxion is a bit weird because he’s still classified as a demon even though he’s light infused
Original dreadlords were creatures of Death from Revendreth. Some of them took in the fel and became demons who joined the Legion. They have the same weaknesses and traits as demons. When they die they return to the Nether, not the SL. But all of those are permanently dead now through our actions and Illidan’s. Except Mal’Ganis.
Other nathrezim joined other cosmic realms and likely did the same thing changing their natures to blend in.
For Shadowlands native beings, like untainted original dreadlords, if they die in the SL their death is permanent. There is no resurrection from here. Same rules as the other cosmic orders.
From the Kyrian daily quest, I thought ANY creature with “strong ties” to their respected cosmic afterlife would return there upon death.
Narru would go back to the Holy Lands.
Ursoc, Cenarius, etc… to Ardenweald first, then Garden of Life.
Dreadlords, and other powerful demons such as Pit Lords, would go back to the Twisting Nether.
If killed within the plane of existence they relate most too, that would permanently kill them.
(This is why I suspect Argus really died and disabled the Arbiter, because the Seat of the Pantheon was the “link” to the planes of Order)
Nathrezim were first part of the Shadowlands and “Death” there were those who underwent a transformation to the Demons within the Planes of Disorder, but not all.
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Unless that was part of their “creation/power process.” They HAD to go to the Planes of Disorder and absorb fel to become powerful enough to infiltrate other cosmic forces.
Day one you were made within death.
Day two you were sent to the Planes of Disorder to consume fel, removing your link from death and becoming linked to the Twisting Nether.
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And as previously discussed, our position within the plane of Disorder is proceeding flawlessly. Consuming fel energy is not a pleasant process, but a necessary one.
If a Nathrezim went to the Garden of life and consumed enough Life Energy, that same Dreadlord may return to Ardenweld then to Garden of Life, upon death…