The op seems to be playing classic, i do not think those are ftp accounts. Either way a lot of effort
I’m not complaining about people having the names. I’m complaining about the small percentage of people that try to hold hundreds if not more names hostage with the intent to sell them over years time. It’s a really really not cool practice and I don’t understand how it benefits the community to have this at ALL. I’m not asking a level 80 player to buy his name, it’s literally just some insignificant fraction of people that are making it to where most names aren’t available. The service they are providing is just bad for the game as a whole, and I do not appreciate the fact that this exists. I don’t understand why you’re vehemently defending them, honestly.
Did you know that people can hoard hundreds of names indefinitely as long as they have a sub? Whether or not they’re being sold.
Because, frankly, you’re making a mountain out of a molehill. Someone holding onto a number of names isn’t bad for the game. Someone holding onto names isn’t downgrading the quality of the game.
Trying to make it sound someone holding onto a name someone may want is akin to bad coding, no fixes, etc., doesn’t help to get your point across well.
The point of the matter is, you believe that this should be changed, therefore you want to provide feedback on the issue. The best place to put said feedback is in General Discussion, not here.
Whether you like it or not, nothing wrong is being done. What should happen when a player finds a name unavailable, then all they simply have to do is pick a different one. There is a simple solution for which you are overlooking.
If you end up providing the feedback, then you will have to give better arguments. Exactly how is this detrimental the game, why it is impeding you from playing, how it is affecting you personally, seeing that you cant speak for others.
Here’s a reason for yah lol
If it’s profitable more and more people will start doing it, as observed in any element of money making more so “Fast cash easy money” elements
Lead to RMT groups setting up shop
Lead to buying gold to buy names
Lead to increase in scamming using more of blizzards time and effort to deal with situations arising from said scams
All of which could lead to illicit organizations moving in, using huge operations with scripts/bots to literally farm thousands of names to sell as once again, easy money fast cash is a huge lure point. These types would be not be against attempting to compromise an account to acquire a highly profitable name.
All of which is just a “possible” of course
Also, I’m pretty sure any OG dev/mod back when wow was at it’s height would tell you directly this mechanic of the game was not intended to be utilized for any element of financial gain and I’m sure if you combed over all the rules/social contract you could find a way to regard it as an illegality
ROFL as someone that has been selling names for years, I can tell you it is not fast.
This is also not true. Name selling is an unsupported transaction so if someone gets scammed it’s a “too bad; so sad” situation.
Again, how is it detrimental. The solution is to pick a different name. No has to pay gold for a character name.
And if scammers/hackers/bots get involved, then they will be reported and dealt with.
" as someone that has been selling names for years "
Any input you have on this would be considered extremely bias, no?
I’ve no investment here just waiting on server format as I read interesting topics haha
Ehh not really. I’m just telling you my experience.
I’m not trying to sell names that look like someone smashed their head on the keyboard, I have names like Nola (the turtle), Glenda and Sonnie. Real names with famous references. It still takes months or longer to sell a name.
Also, it’s not my biased that name selling is an unsupported transaction. That’s just fact.
If it was so easy and quick to make money why isn’t it already a huge problem? This isn’t new, this policy has been in place for years now. Like you said if this was really as easy and quick as you are thinking, illicit organizations would have moved in years ago when this policy was introduced. The market for names isn’t as big as I think you think it is.
Maybe it has? how are we to know how individuals acquire those really good names?
The market for names may not be as big right now, how about later on?
Either way, it holds the possibility to become an issue in the future, imagine if all that was left to pick from was those really bad auto generated names?
The game is 20 years old. If it were such a good money-maker there would be more players doing it. This has never been suggested as a way to make gold. Most players make gold by playing the AH or crafting. That’s why players spam trade with item and profession sales rather than name sales.
If there were a very limited number of names available, this might be a thing.
It doesn’t matter who has the name or why. If it is used it’s not available. Just choose another name.
It hasn’t in 20 years. Names are freed up from accounts no longer playing for two expansions. There’s nothing wrong with the auto-generated names. Most of my characters have them.
I’m failing to understand how you don’t see the detriment coming from people hoarding thousands of names with only the intent to sell them later. It’s like walking infront of an open restaurant and demanding a fee for others to enter and calling it a good business practice. And when people complain your solution is akin to saying “just go to a different restaurant.” It’s extremely scummy and I don’t understand what value it brings to the community to have the majority of names reserved by a few people so they’re never seen ingame in any form of content. In the original vanilla it was such a cool experience to see people with iconic names, and it’s sadly no longer a thing specifically because of these few people. Perhaps you can enlighten me as to how it is beneficial for the playerbase as a whole for name selling to be allowed? Why is it a good thing to remain in the game in its current state
Because this isn’t a new thing and it hasn’t been an issue in 25 years?
A normal person cannot hoard thousands of names. One bnet can hold 480 names for retail. I believe it’s even less for classic servers.
So to even hold one thousand names, they would need three battle nets with seventeen licenses. You’re talking thousands of names?? That’s a lot of bnets dude.
What you’re suggesting isn’t really feasible.
You cannot 100% say, that this will not become an issue in the future, with social media as it is now, imagine someone bragging about making a huge sum of gold/Rl money selling names in wow, could be a catalyst and lead to an issue down the road
As for auto generated names, lol my opinion= they’re bad, your opinion= nothing wrong with them and I’m sure many would agree either way, just don’t try to state it as a fact, it’s very narrowminded
I am using my classic character for forums solely for the name, though I made this post with retail in mind specifically. Also as someone posted above, trial accounts are also able to exist and hold names, all of which wouldn’t be an issue if selling names was against the ToS. I would honestly prefer it that way, and just want some understanding of any benefit whatsoever to the system remaining as it has. I was hoping to provide a screenshot with a friend of mine mentioning the seller by name that has 700 reserved across multiple realms, though I’m not sure how to do that on here or if that’s allowed as it’s witch-hunty behavior
I think you’ve gotten your answer op. Arguing about it here is not the purpose of this forum. If you’d like to suggest they change this policy then, as has been mentioned before, you need to post in the proper forum. General is probably best. Feedback is not collected from customer support.
Good luck in the future.
Dude, this makes absolutely no sense and I keep pointing out why but you ignore it.
People can hold onto names for as long as they want as long as they have a subscription. If name hoarders weren’t selling their names, I guarantee you they would just hold on to them “just in case” for future alts or some other reason.
Name selling isn’t your problem. Someone having your name is, which to be blunt, is too damn bad.