Dude, are you trolling? Stop using the word popular when you mean to use a completely different word. You can’t say something is popular and also unpopular, that’s just verbal gibberish.
I quoted the word popular to you. Use a different word, because admitting that M+ is popular kills your entire point.
Mythic+ is an evolution of a system introduced in MoP actually.
Ok Mr dictionary man. 
^ GD in a nutshell.
Yep. This is GD. 
Oh… well in that case yeah I agree with you, unless I’m gearing an alt I was only doing 1 or 2 a week so I guess I don’t run into this issue.
Just my 2 cents, I think mythic plus is probably the best thing added to WoW since arena. It’s engaging and dynamic, and it’s fun. You can consume it at your own pace.
I just wish they’d add incentives to push key beyond just leaderboard, some like glads for the top x% of pushers.
People doing content you don’t approve of doesn’t make “WoW feel less like WoW”.
And I have to wonder, is there some sort of anti-Mythic+ discord group or something? There’s been a recent surge in people whining about Mythic+ the last couple days.
Only the non optimal people believe you dont need to raid for gear. If you ever want best in slot you have to raid. Dont know what you are talking about. Most of the top mythic plusers and even mid tier ones have a bunch of raid gear on as raid gear is best in slot
The best gear in the game largely drops out of mythic Ny’alotha.
Its actually equal to heroic raids. And heroic raids aren’t that hard so I’d say that +15s are a little easier than them.
So its exactly the same as the old days where you spammed dungeons to get gear? lol. But also things change, if you want to be nostalgic go play classic. Besides they are nerfing mythic+ gear drops in Shadowlands. I would rather they had just buffed raid drops.
M+ is an alternate progression system. It is a good thing for games to have alternate paths of progression. If there aren’t multiple ways to progress your character, people will get bored.
In any game, in any system, players will optimize, even if it sacrifices fun in the process. You don’t need to run M+ dungeons to get raid-level gear. You can raid. But that isn’t as efficient as double-dipping into M+ dungeons, so we do it and treat it like something we must do.
IMO M+ dungeons are harder than raiding for the same ilevel reward, so that gear is 100% deserved. Enjoy that sweet gear, M+ fans, you earned it.
pvp power is coming back
It might not be - Rumor mill is that it was just dev’s testing something and it isn’t actually coming back
No it isn’t.
I would also like to see new dungeons after launch again.
I suppose BfA has Mechagon, but are there any others? One in two content patch old continent isn’t much.
Agree. People keep saying how great Mythic plus is, but its actually caused me to play dungeons less than older expansions.
Regular and Heroic dungeons felt rewarding in older expansions with the exception of wolk probably as heroic was a little too easy as people got gear. Now? I do regular dungeons levelling, but do not even bother with Heroic as the gear is so bad.
I do not have time for guilds as I refuse to do mythic + in PUGS, so I am basically stuck doing world quests.
I much preferred the regular dungeon, heroic dungeon, LFR gear progression system for casual players in the past, even if it meant more of a gear gap between us and raiders. as long as I had the gear to do those stages of casual progression, I was more than fine. That couple with PVP vendors and gear so that raiders could not destroy us in random bgs, it was perfect and it did not need changing AT ALL.
I just do not enjoy the current model at all. Which is fine I guess, gives me time to go do old world achievements lol.
Yeah, I think I kinda made this argument in another post. I’d prefer to see additional and more difficult content instead of just scaling difficulty in the same dungeons that I leveled on.
FYI D3 is the 17th best selling game of all time and RoS turned it around to one of the best ARPG with the inclusion of GRifts and Adventure mode.
In a pug setting / current setting that is correct, however i remember when the xpac first came out - I did all mythic dungeons and everything each week to gear myself, but there was a limit i was happy to hit said limit. Once M+ opened up that limit was gone. Peoples Ilvls jumped up dramatically because there was a source of unlimited heroic level gear. Those who did M+ all day long had a huge advantage over those who didn’t or couldn’t. (Or mythic level gear because titanforging, thankfully that’s gone now)
I have server first M+15. Do you think i puged that? No i didn’t actually i rarely had to pug any M+.
You say my argument is misplaced because “vIsIoNs GiVe GeAr” no it isn’t. If visions gave 470 gear every time you did it with no cap per week, then you would be correct, but you can only get ONE PIECE of 470 gear. My complaint is about the lack of limit or “loot lockout” on M+