Mythic raid gearing is too good

[Spagooter-hyjal]

And What, pray tell, do you need the gear for if all you do is heroic? Almost like it dont matter if they have what they want

[Cartis-undermine (Cartis)]

@Zoumz-zuljin

You can get mythic track gear from the vault with M+, there isn’t a disparity with all other form of content.

But there is a disparity between how much a mythic raider/high key pusher is rewarded vs anyone below them … This comes in the form of max ilevel and gilded crests upgrades. Mythic track is the only track that gives players 6 upgrades with the crests they get from the content they run.

Every other upgrade track only allows for 4 upgrades for the content they run before they need crests from higher content. Or in other words, if all players stay in their lanes, the mythic raider/high key pusher will get the most rewards out of anyone.

Personally, I don’t think this is good design. Not because people shouldn’t be rewarded for running the hardest content … But if you have a choice to better reward a group of players, it’s probably best to reward the group that has more people in it.

[Voxheart-moon-guard]

@Voxheart-moon-guard

No content in the game requires Mythic level gear, except Mythic. M+ does provide the crests and vault reward for Myth track though.

Why do you want this gear, except crab-in-the-bucket envy?

/10characters

[Soax-area-52]

I dont think it would be that bad if they just made Gilded drop from +7’s instead of 9+. There are 2.8 million characters doing 7+ and only 560k unique characters doing 10+. I couldnt isolate 9+ from raider IO.

Its a cyclical problem that hasnt been addressed at all. If you are not 618ish with 2250+ M+ score it is very tough to get into random groups who are 9’s (in my experience as a dps who is 614 and 2160). If you dont mythic raid you do not have access to myth track at 623. This leaves you with runed stone upgrades (which have a weekly cap) until 619 where it starts to require gilded…the same gilded you cant earn unless you are doing 8/8 Heroic and get 30 each week.

TLDR: In order to find a job you must have experience, but you cant get experience without a job.

[Akston-area-52]

A lot of people want bis rewards for doing easy content.

[Zoumz-zuljin (Zoumz)]

@Cartis-undermine

But there is a disparity between how much a mythic raider/high key pusher is rewarded vs anyone below them

Yes this is normally what we call progression, when you clear more content of a higher difficulty you get better rewards because you’ve progressed further in the game. This work as incentives too hence why lower level of content doesn’t reward the same thing. They want you to go beyond to get those rewards.

@Cartis-undermine

But if you have a choice to better reward a group of players, it’s probably best to reward the group that has more people in it.

So we should give the best rewards to people doing world quests? No I don’t think that would make sense and I strongly disagree with that. This isn’t a majority rule but a video game it is made a certain way because it wants you to play a certain way. If you could get the same level of rewards as quick from easier content then you wouldn’t want to push higher and you would probably end up playing less as many people are reward driven.

[Bonusbronze-sargeras]

Smells like low quality bait.

[Mìllìe-stormrage]

The Ragged Harvet Golem set is really neat

It reminds me of Candle Jack from Freakazoid! I bought it imme

[Faminex-dragonmaw]

yet another “I can’t/won’t do it so blizz must delete it” thread

classic

[Voxheart-moon-guard]

@Faminex-dragonmaw

yet another “I can’t/won’t do it so blizz must delete it” thread

The envy and toxic casual attitudes are ridiculous. Everyone wants BIS for logging in.

@Soax-area-52

If you are not 618ish with 2250+ M+ score it is very tough to get into random groups who are 9’s

You either start pushing early, or you slog your way up the ranks (time a 5 on all dungeons…then 6…then 7…etc). People just aren’t putting in the work, and think they deserve to be invited to groups and get carried.

[Evilperiod-aggramar]

Raider raid because they love raiding.

[Snowpine-ghostlands]

@Danskan-rexxar

It’s unfair to Mythic raiders that their gear is only 13%

I dunno what’s worse. OP’s take or the weird, consistent insinuation that 1 ilvl = 1% increase.

[Soax-area-52]

@Zoumz-zuljin

Yes this is normally what we call progression

Whats happening isnt progression , its stagnation.

[Snowpine-ghostlands]

@Soax-area-52

its stagnation.

“those guys progressed further and got better loot! thats stagnant, right?”

man i wish blizzard would let me hand out clown awards

[Zoumz-zuljin (Zoumz)]

@Soax-area-52

Whats happening isnt progression , its stagnation.

More like weekly timegating, it’s been a thing for a while. Have you heard about raid lockouts? xd Okay okay I’m not funny I get it.

[Soax-area-52]

@Snowpine-ghostlands

man i wish blizzard would let me hand out clown awards

So its not stagnation for people under mythic? Do you have a comprehension disability?

[Voxheart-moon-guard]

@Snowpine-ghostlands

man i wish blizzard would let me hand out clown awards

Nono you have it all wrong. Progression = giving BIS to everyone for logging in so everyone feels good for 10 minutes. Then nobody has to feel bad in rainbow sunshine bunny land.

[Tahonto-malganis]

Christ you normies are so good damn entitled.

The ilv difference is fine, get over yourselves.

If you’re not pushing mythic content, wth does it matter the difference between your gear and mythic raid gear is.

[Snowpine-ghostlands]

@Soax-area-52

So its not stagnation for people under mythic?

No more than it is stagnation for there not being a difficulty above mythic. What a ridiculous stance.

[Soax-area-52]

@Zoumz-zuljin

Have you heard about raid lockouts

Raid lockouts limit the gear you have access to for drops. Gilded however allow you to upgrade current gear you equip. These are not equivalent.