Mythic plus tanking perspective from a new tank

And I mean brand new. This is only my third round of affixes as a tank. Tbh I haven’t done a crazy amount of runs, I’m just finding my feet, it’s pretty relaxing.

The journey has been pretty pleasant so far, I know the routes due to playing m+ pretty consistently all expansion so that’s one less barrier to entry, and with rio I can attach my main who has a decent IO so that helps in LFG, so 2 less barriers.

In all in, so far pretty fun, people have been helpful when I’ve done something goofy and offered advice and tips - it’s something I reckon I’ll continue as a main alt this season, atleast to ksm.

But oh boooooy, I now understand why it’s hard to get a tank on necrotic weeks.

Within 5 seconds of a pull you’re already at 17 stacks and you need to kite, pray you have solid agro already and sufficient room or it’s just going to be chaos.

I realise it’s been nerfed and I can only imagine how awful it was then.

Speaking for myself here, but I’m a big tanky moo boy and I don’t want to kite, I am not a feeble cloth wearing moo boy

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Nice name.

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there are some affxes healers do not want to be in also
imho they need to get rid of some affxes that is a group killer

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When you get better at tanking, you’ll realize how necrotic weeks are the best ones. No issues on my prot paladin or brewmaster monk.

Wait til exploding weeks and you get groups that don’t kill explosives or expect the tank to get them all. Bolstering is also really bad and an affix that makes me not want to tank. A bolstered up caster that hits my brewmaster monk is like a 1 hit KO

Do you have any tips for it? I seem to struggle to kite, either got to get on my horse and haul a or pray for some dps snares

It really wasn’t that bad after they nerf it.

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My paladin is a dwarf Kyrian so I’m at a huge advantage on necrotic weeks. I never had to kite much. First stack I use vial, second stack I use dwarf racial, third stack I use bubble with taunt talent.

Using Urh, there’s never really a moment where you can’t clear stacks. I can see there being a possible issue if you get DPS that can’t kill fast enough

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Dear Young PALADIN,

I am not taking my usual stance of “dogpile the pally” on Necrotic week. Here are a few tips to help you this week.

  1. Phial removes stacks if you’re Kryian like a good pally should be for keys.
  2. Kyrian has a complete soulbind just for Necrotic week. It’s on the WoWhead guide
  3. Bubble is your friend be not afraid to use it. I would suggest taking the taunt talent for bubble also.
  4. The changes to the affix make it fall off faster.
  5. You can talent into 2 charges of Pony.
  6. Good DPS can make things die faster and get you out of combat quicker/let the stacks drop off (this is this week with shades.

Welcome to the WAR! You will find there are breaking points as you pug your way up. Of course you should already know this because you’ve ran keys and know that at certain levels you get players who are “less skilled” (that’s the nicest way I can say it). Pug Tanking will suck your soul out of your body but it is the best way to learn. If you always play with freinds/guidlies/people who know what they are doing, you will never seen the ZOMG THEY DIDN’T JUST DO THAT! stuff. This is when you really learn how to tank and how to regain control. It comes in handy when stuff goes sideways in bigger and bigger keys.

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That is pretty much how you do it. You have to create space to get stacks off. You should get help from the group. Monks can RoP, Mages can Frost Nova, Druids and Shamans have trees and elemental that can pull threat letting you run away. There are some mobs that can’t be slowed and some that jump (Necrotic Wake is bad for this). There are some mobs that just ramp up the stacks on some pulls even with the nerfs to the affix. The winged snakes in SoA come to mind.

Affixes that make life hell for tanks or heals seem like a bad idea in general IMO. Makes more sense if they challenge the group as a whole without being overly heavy one role or another.

It’s sad so many players can’t comprehend that every affix is a group affix. The entire group should be using their toolkit to overcome the affix and have the run be successful.

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Thank you bud! I’ll look into that build and at my soulbinds!

I haven’t been using bubble talent so I’ll make the switch for this week!

Muchly appreciated!

Every affix is a tank or healer affix. Spiteful is one of these few that is more DPS oriented and imo shouldn’t even target healers. I think explosives should be a DPS affix as well. They can simply make it where the tank and healer can’t hit them.

Going forward I hope they design affixes more towards the DPS

Oh, and to any seasoned Paladin tank out there

Any tricks of the trade would be muchly appreciated

I only just learned I can freedom off the chains from those mobs in SD!

Paladin has a lot of utility in sure there’s other clever things that can be done!

  1. be kyrian
  2. use kleia with ascendant phial
  3. use Consecrated Ground talent

Thanks for the advice guys,

Since I’ve been utilising my kyrian pot with the soulbinds and my bubble with the talent it’s been muuuuch better

Been having to kite 2/3 less! It’s been so much more tolerable :joy:

paladin and warrior have the hardest time dealing with necrotic imo

monk/druid just dodge enough attacks that it will sometimes passively drop, and druid has it’s own anti-necrotic BS.

DK parries everything, and parries don’t give stacks. I don’t know exactly how well vengeance does, because I haven’t played with any in a long time, but they can just yeet themselves out if they are in danger.

The main mitigation tactic for warrior/pally (block) doesn’t interact with necrotic, so they gain stacks faster than the parry/dodge tanks do. Warrior is mostly tanky by just not taking physical damage (moreso than paladin), but has worse self healing. Prot pally has one of the worst setups for necrotic in that they are a block based tank, who is semi-reliant on being able to heal themselves.

Play Kirian and you literally have 3 ways to refresh the debuff, it shouldnt be an issue for paladins.

Small single pack pulls, let stacks drop before pulling. Most meta groups hate this and want to mass pull to pump 100-200k dps.

You do you. Build your group around your strengths and weaknesses. Eg fury warrior 5 target cleave smashes those small consistent pulls. MM hunter with binding, tar trap, bursting shot. Resto sham lust, stun totem, earth ele etc etc.

Pally tank is arguably in the best place its ever been and is my prefered tank for m+ when played correctly.

Good luck hope you have fun dealing with all this.