Pros:
High level of camaraderie and competition
Constantly changing seasonal affixes keep gameplay fresh
Encourages teamwork and skill mastery
Cons:
High-stress environment can lead to toxicity and burnout
Steep learning curve and gear requirements can be barriers for newcomers
Balancing changes and RNG loot can cause frustration
What do you think about the balance in M+ content? What improvements or changes do you think are necessary?
Are the higher levels of Mythic Plus worth the time, effort, and stress?
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I believe so, it’s my favorite part of the game
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Depends entirely at what level you play.
If you’d prefer to stick to like M+6 and below, currently, you may as well just not touch a dungeon ever. Just do some delves and you’ll get the same reward out of it for significantly less effort.
If you plan to get KSM or anything beyond that, it’s probably worth the time. 7s are where it starts having relevance over Delves, and also are roughly where you get KSM.
Yes if you’re having fun.
That’s kinda the goal right?
I do enjoy the content but the grindiness is not the part I prefer.
I’d probably hit the great vault and reduce the amount of dungeons to cap to 4 or 5.
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If you got a group, then yes, it’s fun.
If you only pug, then no.
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Hardest part is getting groups if you’re not a tank or healer. If you are dps and have a group to run with on a regular basis, then you’re fine. Otherwise you’re sitting around for hours at a time trying to get an invite.
Cons:
Absolutely garbage dungeon pool.
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That is such a stretch lol…Best you get is a …yay, we did it. Otherwise, everyone watches the same guide and memorizes it and tries to mimic it. The rest is either silence because there is no time to chat, or rage quits (unless with friends…then its like, welp, muh key is gone F)
People have no idea how anti-social this game is. Players think that socializing is simply being in a group of people where 1 person does most of the talking/yelling, and everyone else is just following along and trying not to make a mistake.
I’m personally burning out fast because mythic raiding has always been intense, highly focused, sit down, shut up and listen atmosphere but the only way to progress to max. But now it leaked into M+ that I still have to do for vault slots. Delves are a solo activity. I do get to clown a bit in heroic raids since its on farm…ish.
If I wasn’t under pressure to do m+ for vault to stay on mythic raid prog team…I’d never touch it in its current form. DF was better.
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you gotta enjoy it.
eventually it can only give you upgrades through vault. worth it if youre having fun i guess.
you know what, some people should never do m+
Yes, m+ is full of toxic people like me. If you are not able to heal a +4, stop playing this game. It means you suck. It means you have no idea about your class. You just press some buttons. You have been carried by your parents in your whole life, now you are expecting the same thing from strangers.
Git gud, and it will be fun and worth the effort playing with good people who are ready/eager learn and do their part.
Cons:
Timer
It is being timed
There is a clock ticking down
You have to beat the timer
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What a sick joke.
M+ is only “fun” if you have the people to play with, otherwise pugging is a complete s-show; it’s very, very depressive and miserable.
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It depends on your goal to gear up. When you want to avoid stress and be happy with a gear cap at 619, you can follow the Delves track and ignore m+ completely.
On the other hand, for min-maxers who want the best of the best, m+ is a must do.
Ever since DF s4, my goal is to push m+ as high as I can. For some reason I thought it wouldn’t be this painful, but alas. Not to mention that I have a nack for picking specs with the worst utility kit.
Im sitting at 2.3 and that’s probably as high as I’ll get as a pug, havoc demon hunter. Getting into a established group is really really hard.
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I’ve seen some players using overpowered classes to achieve high ratings, then pointing at others, saying the reason they can’t get into groups is because they’re too weak.
For them, their efforts might be well worth it.
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They’re worth it for those that like that content and want to see how high they can push.
I don’t like the go go go rush aspect of it so I don’t bother, and I don’t really care about the diamond looking mount.
Valid points but in higher keys you dont encounter much toxicity if at all.
Hard to say. I feel like if you want heroic gear, It’s pretty much your only option because mythic zero through six drops the exact same gear as delves seven through 11 but you have to put up with other players so there is a trade-off.