No Reward Is Worth This. It's a quote from a film I like. Maybe you've seen it?
I just spent an hour in Underrot with Explosive. It was awful. We didn't finish. The orbs were awful. I hear I can skip a few dungeons this week, for orbs that spawn on bosses and all their many adds. To think, I thought Grievous was awful the week before.
I really loved Mythic + in Legion. I thought it was the best thing in the Xpac, and I liked a lot of that Xpac. But the changes you've made here - switching tyrannical and fortified to lvl 2, then adding in the other affixes, and buffing them... It's just not fun. When you combine them with the trash heavy dungeons you've made, it is fast becoming a chore to run one every week just for a cache piece.
I have been a big fan of dungeons for a long time. I ran all the CMs in MoP and WoD, and ran the hell outta mythics in Legion. Because of Real Life (tm), they hit a really good spot for me and my guild, who have all those adult obligations that mean we can only raid one day a week. But in BfA - which is quickly earning its title Beta For Azeroth - I am becoming more and more turned off by the dungeons. They're such slogs.
I'm sorry Bliz, I don't know what's happened, but the quote is becoming very true. No Reward Is Worth This.
I thought they hotfixed Underrot and a couple other dungeons yesterday? were they not really fixed, and still spawning way too many orbs?
I finished plus 11 Underrot and it went fine even though Frostmourne server crashed during my run. *sighs
10/25/2018 04:27 AMPosted by AyeraIt's just not fun. When you combine them with the trash heavy dungeons you've made, it is fast becoming a chore to run one every week just for a cache piece.
You're aware that they're not mandatory right? If it's not fun, and the reward isn't worth the trouble, you can just opt out.
You're aware that they're not mandatory right? If it's not fun, and the reward isn't worth the trouble, you can just opt out.
comments like this are worth less than the one or two seconds they take to type
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10/25/2018 08:44 AMPosted by Quixa
You're aware that they're not mandatory right? If it's not fun, and the reward isn't worth the trouble, you can just opt out.
comments like this are worth less than the one or two seconds they take to type
Comments like mine have at least an equal value with threads complaining about something entirely optional not being worth the time to do it. If you were referring to your own comment, I agree. It is completely worthless.
10/25/2018 08:44 AMPosted by Quixa
You're aware that they're not mandatory right? If it's not fun, and the reward isn't worth the trouble, you can just opt out.
comments like this are worth less than the one or two seconds they take to type
I mean it's true. There's stuff in this game I don't even want to touch, so I don't.
LFR
Timewalking
Pet battles
Since I can't stand them, I don't do them.
I know it's a hard concept for some people to understand.
10/25/2018 08:44 AMPosted by Quixa...
comments like this are worth less than the one or two seconds they take to type
I mean it's true. There's stuff in this game I don't even want to touch, so I don't.
LFR
Timewalking
Pet battles
Since I can't stand them, I don't do them.
I know it's a hard concept for some people to understand.
Maybe so but your "list" of unfun things doesnt hold you back from getting a 385 azerite piece in a convenient chest every tuesday.
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I mean it's true. There's stuff in this game I don't even want to touch, so I don't.
LFR
Timewalking
Pet battles
Since I can't stand them, I don't do them.
I know it's a hard concept for some people to understand.
Maybe so but your "list" of unfun things doesnt hold you back from getting a 385 azerite piece in a convenient chest every tuesday.
If I hated M+, I wouldn't do it. Timewalking gives some amount of gear, I don't care. I know people can get a 370-380 piece in LFR, I don't care.
I play the game to have fun, and even if I'm missing shots at gear, I couldn't care less because I'm not doing something I don't enjoy.
Maybe so but your "list" of unfun things doesnt hold you back from getting a 385 azerite piece in a convenient chest every tuesday.
If I hated M+, I wouldn't do it. Timewalking gives some amount of gear, I don't care. I know people can get a 370-380 piece in LFR, I don't care.
I play the game to have fun, and even if I'm missing shots at gear, I couldn't care less because I'm not doing something I don't enjoy.
M+ is meant to be an end-game activity that you want to do. Blizz needs to know when a system isn't working well.
The horrible rng loot system is also not helping with people not wanting to do M+ dungeons.
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10/25/2018 10:49 AMPosted by SkribbyM+ is meant to be an end-game activity that you want to do. Blizz needs to know when a system isn't working well.
And if people who don't want to do it stop doing it, then Blizzard will know how many actually want to do it and decide if it's working well or not.
10/25/2018 10:11 AMPosted by WildacesMaybe so but your "list" of unfun things doesnt hold you back from getting a 385 azerite piece in a convenient chest every tuesday.
So maybe it is worth it for you then? Do you want the 385 more than you don't want to do M+? If yes, then it's worth the trouble. If not, then don't do it. It's pretty simple.
10/25/2018 07:12 AMPosted by LilywindI thought they hotfixed Underrot and a couple other dungeons yesterday? were they not really fixed, and still spawning way too many orbs?
They fixed the end boss but I'm willing to bet Cragmaw still spawns a lot of orbs after tantrum.
10/25/2018 08:44 AMPosted by Quixa...
comments like this are worth less than the one or two seconds they take to type
Comments like mine have at least an equal value with threads complaining about something entirely optional not being worth the time to do it. If you were referring to your own comment, I agree. It is completely worthless.
The whole game is optional bro. That doesn't mean everything about the game has to be a "take it or leave it" scenario.
M+ is meant to be enjoyable. The changes from legion to BFA have made it less enjoyable for a huge percentage of the player base. That's a problem, and you typing git gud 1,000,000 times doesn't make it any less of a problem.
10/25/2018 11:42 AMPosted by Aewendil10/25/2018 07:12 AMPosted by LilywindI thought they hotfixed Underrot and a couple other dungeons yesterday? were they not really fixed, and still spawning way too many orbs?
They fixed the end boss but I'm willing to bet Cragmaw still spawns a lot of orbs after tantrum.
Buy speed potions if your groups can't handle stepping on bugs.
Oh who am I kidding. You're just here to whine.
10/25/2018 11:48 AMPosted by Cyantific10/25/2018 11:42 AMPosted by Aewendil...
They fixed the end boss but I'm willing to bet Cragmaw still spawns a lot of orbs after tantrum.
Buy speed potions if your groups can't handle stepping on bugs.
Oh who am I kidding. You're just here to whine.
My post wasn't in any way whining, I was just guessing what the OP was talking about. Is it really necessary for you to be such a dickhead in every post?
10/25/2018 08:32 AMPosted by ZothlarYou're aware that they're not mandatory right? If it's not fun, and the reward isn't worth the trouble, you can just opt out.
Sure, but in truth, nothing in game is mandatory. Not even playing.
My point was that I have, in the past, really liked mythic plus (and challenge mode, back when it was that). This Xpac, I don't. I don't largely because of the choices that they've made to how mythic plus works. Now, I know some people do like it, and that's cool, but in my mind, the changes have made the dungeons a chore. Some of the trash pulls are more intricate than a boss (in fact, most, because bosses are largely simple) and introduction of Fort and Tyrannical at 2 means that even lower keys can be a slog of time.
Those are the words I use for my experience. Not too hard, or too difficult, but chore and slog.
You're right that they're not mandatory, and neither is coming to the forum to leave a comment, but I've done both regardless. Hopefully Bliz will read it. It probably won't mean anything, but if nothing is said, nothing is read.
You're right, it went from being fun and something we used to do several nights a week with several groups, to a chore that we do once a week to get it out of the way.
I don't know why it stopped being fun but it's probably a combination of the trash focused nature of dungeons this xpac combined with the affixes starting at +2.
I still do them, and they're by far the most enjoyable part of BFA for me, but they're definitely not as fun as they were in Legion.
I don't know why it stopped being fun but it's probably a combination of the trash focused nature of dungeons this xpac combined with the affixes starting at +2.
I still do them, and they're by far the most enjoyable part of BFA for me, but they're definitely not as fun as they were in Legion.
10/25/2018 08:44 AMPosted by Quixa
You're aware that they're not mandatory right? If it's not fun, and the reward isn't worth the trouble, you can just opt out.
comments like this are worth less than the one or two seconds they take to type
Except it does have merit. What's frustrating is the fact it constantly needs to be said because people don't understand such a simple fundamental concept.
I am puzzled how folks aren’t able to enjoy the dungeons this time around?
I love doing mindful things :).
I love doing mindful things :).
Just rework Grievous so it's not impossible to heal through and i'm cool :) everything else seems manageable affix wise. I wouldn't want them to make it any easier. I think that's the main issue with this game. Blizzard puts out good/difficult content and the players whine left and right until they make it so any average joe can face roll through the content without having to think or use a strategy to reach success as a group.