So in order to get some of my best in slot, i have to get extremely lucky week after week with no alternative?
You mean myth tier?
Well, yes. Mythic dungeons drops myth tiers. As it should.
But you can also get champion grade through delves. If you know your class well enough….
No, i mean the final tier of items you can get in the game (that drops from mythic raid and reaches 639)
Currently, as far as i know, there is no level of M+ that drops that level of item (only heroic that reaches 626), however the great vault drops dungeon items of the 639 quality.
There are no repeatable sources of myth track gear, that is correct. You can get them from raid&dungeon vault and off raid bosses with your single mythic raid group each week.
Yes, worked the same in Dragonflight.
That kinda sucks, and im not even at the worst end of the stick…
I hear that there are classes that only have 1 bis item from the raid, being almost entirely reliant on the vault to get their bis.
Which “BiS” website are you looking at?
I think it is worth noting that a vast majority will never have most of their BiS, possibly excluding last season where you could hard-target myth track raid weapons, jewelry, and trinkets. It’s nice, but if you aren’t going into a tournament realm it’s going to be unlikely you have a perfect character.
I don`t really follow a particular list, i look at the top guys in warcraft logs and my class discord. Why do you ask?
I haven’t seen a spec that’s almost entirely reliant on dungeon drops for the BiS. It’s usually a mix of raid/M+ so I was just curious.
To be fair i can only speak in detail about my own class, i know that for Havoc our bis stats are Crit and Mastery, and a lot of the raid drops dont align those stats nicely… I keep my 4 piece set bonus because its really strong but almost all other slots id rather have dungeon drops in mythic quality (Queen Ring and trinket are some exceptions). Skardyn`s Grace is the one i want the most which is the bis trinket from Grim Batol, but i guess ill just have to get lucky one week.
Well… there’s Mythic raid. And technically profession crafting.
Isn’t the warp blade off Kyvesa a BiS weapon?
Other than that, I understand your points about the M+ loot preferences.
Dungeons can be done infinite times (no weekly lockout) which is why the end-of-dungeon drops are lower than the weekly vault shot.
If you want to have each dungeon doable only once per week, then feel free to advocate that instead of the current system.
Correct, i said there were exceptions. but yeah as it is i personally have around 7 items that i would rather have from a dungeon.
That’s kind of how it has always been. Mythic raiding will always be the ultimate content in Blizzards eyes. The fact that Mythic+ even rewards Myth track loot from the weekly vault is welcomely surprising. I do wish they’d add some form of targetting or luck boosting options to the vault, even if it’s only a placebo drop down menu I can select. Make me feel like I’m skewing the odds in my favor.
Yeah thats a fair point. The way i would see it is putting it behind very high keys like 13 or 14 and have it in a way where you would only be able to get the 8 chests of possible mythic loot a week much like the 8 raid bosses… Then the loot table reverts back to how it is currently
So you still want the unlimited gear and crests from M+ every week, but on top of that you want 8 chests of Myth-track loot from end-of-dungeon, and I assume you want to continue to be able to pick and choose which dungeons you want to do it from, still able to focus-farm by doing the same dungeon 8 times for Myth-track every week.
So the best of all worlds.
I hope everyone can understand why this is a ridiculous request.
Yes, only from vault for that track.
Not the worst. We can do 4 crafted 636s now, a few myth based on how active you’ve been and the rest 626 or w/e hero goes to.
Unlimited crests? what game are you playing mate?
Fact is that the gear from 7+ gets obsolete rather fast so it being “unlimited” doesnt really matter, im just suggesting a capped opportunity to get mythic level items in really high keys. Gives ppl something to strive for aside from just doing 8 10s a week for their vault. Delves are already obsolete as is, i dont even do them because they dont give anything of value anymore.