I don’t even think you should get mythic gear from mythic+. It takes so much work and effort to mythic raid they should get the gear 100%
5 man vs. 25 man, you are wrong right there about M+ being easier.
You need to find a new strawman for yourself,
timed all 11+ with no addons (except details).
Sorry to disappoint.
This is because we are best at what we most practice. If you are a high level mythic raider, and do mythic + as side content, then you’re not going to perform that well there, and the same applies to primary mythic + players coming into mythic raiding. The two are similar, but both require slightly different skill sets, but those slight differences can have huge outcomes.
Lol…
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Aren’t you the one who made a post crying about how heroic queen was too hard last week? Kinda puts thing in perspective that you can make it through 11’s by playing tank and standing in mechanics in m+ huh?
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I pugged queen, dont worry about me, Hqueen still much easier than M+.
Also if you would try to read post instead of being toxic, you would notice that I am saying that hqueen is hard for pugs, not hard mechanic wise.
I think M+ is harder to execute individually, more things to interrupt, more things you need to use defensives on, more things you have to get out of at much more frantic pace, more bosses and pulls you have to learn, and more unpredictable.
Raiding needs more coordination and leadership.
But M+ is also orders of magnitude more accessible. So you get a lot more opportunities to learn it.
It’s simply so much easier to get 4 competent people for a half hour than 19 competent people for 2 hours.
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Dunno where you are finding these people, but 11s are trivial compared to Ovinax.
They only get hard to time starting at 12s.
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How are you going to judge the difficulty of the raid when you haven’t even done it on LFR? The only mythic raiding experience you have is a bought carry through amidrasill and one for seplechur…
I’d think probability wise based on number of players and with RWF mechanics that require absolute precision the chance for things to go wrong is increased in Mythic Raiding. Both I’m sure require strategy but both are very time based as well.
In the end, for M+ you literally will hit a wall and be incapable of doing enough dps to progress and beat the timer no matter what you do. It could objectively be argued that in 5 man the room for error and possibility for completion in the time limit is far slimmer than in Mythic Raiding. But does that necessarily mean it’s harder?
Perhaps it could be argued again that the organizational skill and teamwork required in a Mythic raid is where the real difficulty lies regardless of the above. Especially if both are objectively the same difficulty wise regarding mechanical implementation.
Why are you pressing throw glaive every other GCD on queen lol
This is because raiding is a more chill, forgiving environment. It’s about trial and error.
Both M+ and Mythic Raiding requires the user to go in knowing the encounters. But knowing isn’t always enough. You have to put in the practice. Only raiding gives the opportunity to practice as a group and learn each other’s quirks.
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Just say you are bad at raiding and never get invited
I’ve heard similar things from people who PUGed high IO tanks who refused to tank swap, wiping the group again and again, switched them out and cleared the next run.
They’re different skillsets.
If you have to ask, do I even need to bother answering.
Also before critisizing what I do time all 11 with pugs as a tank.
Xtra also, I am not usually interested in opinion of trolls who get carried in mraids.
The real question should be is any PVE content harder than the highest levels of PVP?
I think that PVP requies much more across class knowledge thatn all pve combined.
Is it though? I did all the keys on 11 they were easy. Mythic Broodtwister and onwards are much more difficult imo.
Bro there is still time to delete this troll post