is it breath or obliterate for dungeons now?
unless you’re playing with a coordinated group you should never run breath
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I would still use Breath in uncoordinated groups.
Breath is just stupid good in terms of amount of runes it gives you.
Considering Runes are very valuable atm, I would say Obliterate would be the answer.
EDIT: Obliteration and BoS are not mutual exclusive btw!
Nah, it’s a mistake. Feels bad and you lose a lot of value from your CDs when they aren’t used efficiently.
Oblit all the way in pugs, and if you running with organized group then bos can really shine. But I still prefer oblit.
Sure… But you have to take a look at the big picture of BoS: It’s the only Mass RP sink we have that is also the only ability that cost RP that doesn’t take a Global Cooldown.
It’s like Conversion but dealing damage instead of Healing. And sure it has been polarizing ability because the amount of absurd damage it does, we live in a time where Runes are stupid valuable in contrast of RP being most expendable. Spending a GCD on RP ability doesn’t feel good for this reason.
So messing up BoS is more of a problem with the resource (and the cooldown but this is given) rather than the ability itself… or rather not being used efficiently but I guess that’s also the silver lining.
Thankfully Obliterate & Frost Strike Buffs at the expense of BoS in terms of damage would make this closely aligned.
Just go read the WoWhead guide. You get a more unbiased take than people on the forums.
The question isnt “Obliteration or BoS” its actually “BoS or Shattered Frost”. It also depends on if you are Rider or DB and if you are using a 2h which is limited in its build choices.
20-30 seconds of duration is all that you need to make BoS worth it in an aoe scenario and you want it up for bosses so thats really the only thing that would be an issue of knowing when you can use it prior to getting to a boss.
If you dont want to do that or cant do that, then go shattered Frost, unless you are 2h. Then you are just hurting yourself. If you are at the point of scrutinizing over talent selections to perform to the best the spec can, then you shouldnt be looking at a self nerf like 2h.
Both are good.
Assuming you mean SB not obliteration as both builds take obliteration
Play what you enjoy more.
Most 10+ pugs run the same routes so you should get decent value out of BOS.
Low keys def shattering.