Mythic 0's and Delve tier 8's are scaled incorrectly

Might be the guy’s class. Rogue is in very rough shape.

It literally has the ilvl on it, and the tuning in M0 is already set to like M+10. Personally, I am waiting to be a bit higher ilvl before hitting either. Then again, Prot pallies just solo world bosses, so I may not have to wait.

On T8, as a DPS?

Packs having 2-3 casters + a melee mob, and the caster bolts doing 1.2m damage each isn’t fine.

Regular mobs are more dangerous than the bosses.

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i haven’t done them on my rogue yet, but my lock didn’t have any issues last night at 580 ilvl.

Since players have been doing Level 8 Delves solo it’s likely a combo of skill and gear.

Just run them up to the level where you can succeed, get some upgrades and try again. Not everyone is meant to do the max level Delves out of the gate.

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Pet classes always have a huge advantage in solo content.

Also for some reason today’s round of delves feel harder than yesterday, despite gaining 15 ilvls.

sure but demo doesn’t run blueberry

anyway i’ll give it a shot on the rogue tonight, maybe i’ll be unpleasantly surprised!

Surprised a rogue is not just sapping and sneaking through for treasures and bosses. Also, it helps to do them in small groups, like a mini dungeon or the old Island scenarios from BFA. It’s subtle (pardon the Rogue pun) but they are hinting at people doing this in groups.

Don’t know about M0 since I haven’t done them yet.

But delves do not need to be nerfed. They can be done solo or with a group. I’ve had no problems doing t8 Bountifuls on Ret Pally (ilvl579 at the time), Frost Mage (ilvl 574/575 at the time) and now Fury Warrior (ilvl 576 at the time). I’m working my way through on getting other classes geared and I’m willing to bet that t8 will be the same difficulty for them. (Except Priest because of lack of interrupts)

Is it difficult? Yes. It should be too, it’s recommended ilvl is 600 for t8 but we’re doing them at 570-580.

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If your not able to do 8’s, get better gear and try again later.

Its called progression. You shouldnt be able to clear all available content the day after it is released.

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Typical same argument different event. Always those tank classes or classes with better survivability claiming how easy everything is. Everyone else either admits to gr play or oddly enough is to scared to admit it.

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Mythic dungeons are supposed to be hard, gotta earn those purps.

You may think that and no one can sway your belief, but here’s what I’ve completed with solo so far.

One of these has less survivability than the rest in their kit and the other can only take 1-2 hits before the next one finishes them.

I also didn’t try to run my way through. I took time between packs to let major cd’s come off cooldown and made sure I interrupted anything that was a huge threat. I also did my best to grab the least amount of mobs possible with every pull. Most importantly, I used every bit of my classes kits. It’s not supposed to easy (especially when you’re 20-30ilvls below the recommended), not when the reward is Hero track gear in Vault and champion gear on completion.

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The scaling issue is this:

Delves solo >= M0 > > > Delves in a group

Therefore, group delves need a buff.

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Did it as an affliction lock at 575 up to and including Tier 7 delves, was a bit bumpy in figuring out which spell was highest interrupt priority but managed to do it. Then went to do T8 bountifuls on my Devastation evoker at 592 ilvl, was rough at some points again, usually from overpulling or making the mistake of asking, “Will this one shot me?”, but managed to clear them and some even without dying solo once I got into the rhythm.

It is challenging solo content which will be nerfed with gear (T8s expecting you to be 600+ ilvl) means it is going to last a while for people. If you could do Day 1 Legion Mage Tower, you can do Day 1 T8 Solo delves except this time you aren’t gated behind Legendary RNG.

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I knew it wouldn’t take long to see these posts. Pre-season everyone was talking about how they enjoy m0 being a barrier for entry into m+ and sure enough not even 24 hours after m0 launches we got people on here complaining about how difficult it is.

“we want challenging solo content!”

“no not like that! i meant stuff i can beat easily but that you describe as challenging so i can feel good without having to work for it!”

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Soloed the delves fine. First 4 about 22 ilvl under 600 so….yeah I think they’re okay.

Blizzard will be tracking success/failure rates of delves.

If they were expecting more people to clear, they’ll nerf delves.
If they were expecting fewer people to clear, they’ll buff delves.

We will see what they expected from delves soon enough, I don’t think it’ll come down to forum posts.

The only way I see it being “fair” to all classes is if they add individual buffs/nerfs to each class spec/hero via some hidden aura only active inside that delve.
Making changes to the delve itself will just screw it up.

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Its not. Thats bs. I have 700khps and our 8 million health tank literally gets one shot.

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